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Do you think I'm full of shit? I bet you do.
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 Post subject: OS 9 for PC no elum...
PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 4:35 am 
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How's it going everyone? I'm here to bring great news, and im sure most if not all will be saying it is truly impossible without eliminating the a file or some sort of hardware, but that is no longer true let me explain why.

Today after school, I was feeling really pissed off after my teacher screwed me over so I came home and did homework once I got home, i decided id try once again to get my MAC OSX10.3.2 cd to work on my pc and after hours it finally did, well once i did that, i had full access to a bunch of Objective c encrypted files. Yay for me (cough cough) so i took it out and put OSX 9 in, and realized a terrible mistake. OS 9 has both the unencrypted info and decrypted scripts, and as we speak, I am changing the cd boot scripts to work with C++ and boot from a PC machine and a PC CD and or DVD player.

How long will this take? The boot file itself I know will take less then a week but in order to get the full OS working it will take a long item unless I get help. I will release pics next week of OSX 9 booting. Peace and long live (OPEN SOURCE ON EVERY COMPUTER)


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 12:11 pm 
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So you got OSX to boot natively on your x86 machine?


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I think that you're full of shit, but that's just my opinion. Show some proof, and then things might be different.


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Yeah, perhaps you are full of shit. MacOS9/X can not boot on an x86 pc. Could you give us a photo or screenshot?
And are you sure that it is MacOS that you booted, not Apple Rhapsody for x86?


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 7:48 pm 
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Wow okay read more carefully

Look first of all, the reason why OSX9 wont install on a intel or amd processor without a elumator is because the cd has a boot-script running down making sure its a mac computer, which I found.

Now this is what I said, I found it, and got it to allow me to ingor the fact that its not a MAC computer and it reads the cd on boot and starts the install processes, but it still doesnt solve the fact that the hard drive paths arn't right and so forth. I got to re-do all that, you guys are jumping way ahead. You guys think im bootting into the actual OSX9 desktop im talking about the install from restart, to install on your hard drive without an eluminator.


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 Post subject: BOOT Script
PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 8:03 pm 
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So as u all well know there are scripts wlel here is a cd script. look at the very bottom for a partly modified script for what I mean of course this doesnt show much it gives u an idea of what ill be doing
<BOOT-SCRIPT>
here &gt;r
dev /
" model" active-package get-package-property abort" can't find MODEL"
decode-string 2swap 2drop " iMac,1" $= ?dup 0= if
" compatible" active-package get-package-property abort" can't find COMPATIBLE"
false &gt;r
begin
dup while
decode-string here over 2swap bounds ?do
i c@ dup [char] A [char] Z between if h# 20 xor then c,
loop
2dup " macrisc" $= r&gt; or &gt;r
2drop
repeat
2drop r&gt;
then
r&gt; here - allot
0= abort" this image is not for this platform"
decimal
1 load-base load-size 14 - adler32 load-base load-size + 12 - 12 ['] eval catch if
2drop ." , bad checksum value" -1
then
&lt;&gt; if
." , checksum error"
abort
then
hex
dev /openprom
0 0 " supports-bootinfo" property device-end
" /chosen" find-package 0= abort" can't find '/chosen'" constant /chosen
" memory" /chosen get-package-property abort" memory??" decode-int constant xmem 2drop
" mmu" /chosen get-package-property abort" mmu??" decode-int constant xmmu 2drop
" AAPL,debug" " /" find-package 0= abort" can't find '/'" get-package-property if
false
else
2drop true
then
constant debug?
debug? if cr ." checking for RELEASE-LOAD-AREA" then
" release-load-area" $find 0= if 2drop false then constant 'release-load-area
debug? if 'release-load-area if ." , found it" else ." , not found" then then
: do-translate " translate" xmmu $call-method ;
: do-map " map" xmmu $call-method ;
: do-unmap " unmap" xmmu $call-method ;
: claim-mem " claim" xmem $call-method ;
: release-mem " release" xmem $call-method ;
: claim-virt " claim" xmmu $call-method ;
: release-virt " release" xmmu $call-method ;
1000 constant pagesz
pagesz 1- constant pagesz-1
-1000 constant pagemask
h# 005000 constant elf-offset
h# 016FC0 constant elf-size
elf-size pagesz-1 + pagemask and constant elf-pages
h# 01BFC0 constant parcels-offset
h# 2532FC constant parcels-size
parcels-size pagesz-1 + pagemask and constant parcels-pages
h# 26F2BC constant info-size
info-size pagesz-1 + pagemask and constant info-pages
0 value load-base-claim
0 value info-base
'release-load-area if
load-base to info-base
else
load-base info-pages 0 ['] claim-mem catch if 3drop 0 then to load-base-claim
info-pages 1000 claim-virt to info-base
load-base info-base info-pages 10 do-map then
\ allocate room for both images
parcels-pages 400000 claim-mem constant rom-phys parcels-pages 1000 claim-virt constant rom-virt rom-phys rom-virt parcels-pages 10 do-map
elf-pages 1000 claim-mem constant elf-phys elf-pages 1000 claim-virt constant elf-virt
elf-phys elf-virt elf-pages 10 do-map info-base elf-offset + elf-virt elf-size move debug? if cr ." elf-phys,elf-virt,elf-pages: " elf-phys u. ." , " elf-virt u. ." , " elf-pages u. then
\ copy the compressed image
debug? if cr ." copying compressed ROM image" then
rom-virt parcels-pages 0 fill
info-base parcels-offset + rom-virt parcels-size move
'release-load-area 0= if
info-base info-pages do-unmap load-base-claim ?dup if info-pages release-mem then
then
debug? if cr ." MacOS-ROM phys,virt,size: " rom-phys u. ." , " rom-virt u. ." , " parcels-size u. then
\ create the actual property
debug? if cr ." finding/creating '/rom/macos' package" then
device-end 0 to my-self
" /rom" find-device
" macos" ['] find-device catch if 2drop new-device " macos" device-name finish-device then
" /rom/macos" find-device
debug? if cr ." creating 'AAPL,toolbox-parcels' property" then
rom-virt encode-int parcels-size encode-int encode+ " AAPL,toolbox-parcels" property
device-end
debug? if cr ." copying MacOS.elf to load-base" then
'release-load-area if
load-base elf-pages + 'release-load-area execute
else
load-base elf-pages 0 claim-mem
load-base dup elf-pages 0 do-map then
elf-virt load-base elf-size move
elf-virt elf-pages do-unmap elf-virt elf-pages release-virt
elf-phys elf-pages release-mem
debug? if cr ." init-program" then
init-program
debug? if cr ." .registers" .registers then
debug? if cr ." go" cr then
go
cr ." end of BOOT-SCRIPT"
</BOOT-SCRIPT>

<BOOT-SCRIPT>
begin here
dev /
" model" active-package get-package-property abort" can't find MODEL"
decode-string 2swap 2drop " I386" $= ?dup 0= if
" compatible" active-package get-package-property abort" can't find COMPATIBLE"
false

its really quite simple and it really works, as stupied as it sounds, it just takes a long time to do. so once i get the hard drive paths to work, for thei nstall ill take screen pics for you. I plan for this to be completly open source. So yah peace


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 8:18 pm 
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What would be the point of editing this script? Once it was happy to install on anything, it would still fail if it couldn't get the processor to interpret the instructions in the install program.

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Dude, READ - EXAMPLE and as I said one of MANY SCRIPTS i have to edit. this is not the only one I was trying to use it as ean example. Man you crack me up :lol:


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I'll just let you get on with it then. Just let us know once you have got OSX working on an x86 platform....you're not Darek or Jim are you...?

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Who in gods name is derek or jim? Ay will give u guys something when i got something :)


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twisted wrote:
Who in gods name is derek or jim? Ay will give u guys something when i got something :)


Darek Mihocka is a person who wrote an emulator called SoftMac and keeps lying about a programme called SoftMac Profesional (a PPC emulator) and Jim Drew is a person who has also been lying about a PPC emulator called iFusionl.


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twisted wrote:
Who in gods name is derek or jim? Ay will give u guys something when i got something :)


That's funny...who is Darek or Jim...he, he... :lol:

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If you get OS9 to even show a boot screen on an x86 PC.... I will do backflips to china (note I am in Texas) GOOD LUCK :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D




>Neospy 8)


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 Post subject: I support you!
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Hey, I just wanted to say also that I really hope this will work. I know this is like technically impossible, but it is worth it. It never hurts to try :wink: .


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Are you working on this as we speak, or have you cancelled this? I mean it's like this thread is dead? :cry: NOOOOO!




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It was bound to fail.


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gb wrote:
It was bound to fail.

Yes, I figured there would be no way to add x86 AMD and Intel support for os9. But, You never know...... :wink:




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I still think it was Darek or Jim...

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robojam wrote:
I still think it was Darek or Jim...

Well, if it was, we'd know because darek and jim have no initive. :lol:
:idea: But Twisted, here's something. :idea: Wouldn't it be easier to work on OS 7 or 8? 9 is a lot more complex. Or what about OS 1? That would be an easy port :| ? There is a lot of ways to look at it.


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Maybe 'twisted' is the result of a genetic experiment to mix the genes of Darek and Jim and clone the results...

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robojam wrote:
Maybe 'twisted' is the result of a genetic experiment to mix the genes of Darek and Jim and clone the results...


He could be.....

But if it was Darek or Jim, they would have said something like:
MacOS 9 will be availible for IBM-compatible-PCs very soon now'

and then two years later they are still saying the same thing.


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That's true - probably just before every Mac gathering in the calendar...

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what absolute nonsense! There is no way that it is only a 'script' which makes it look for a macintosh computer at startup. The OS is PowerPC native. It can't work on an x86 machine!

Unless they kept their star trek results as part of the os for fun....


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