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68K Software

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:24 am
by ClockWise
I made a little page detailing some 68K software:

http://emaculation.com/doku.php/68k_software

It's mostly a collection of software already described in the other guides, but with a few special additions. Not such a big deal... but please suggest additions.

(edit: changed URL)

Re: 68K Software

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:09 pm
by yksoft1
ClockWise wrote:I made a little page detailing some 68K software:

http://www.emaculation.com/basilisk/software.html

It's mostly a collection of software already described in the other guides, but with a few special additions. Not such a big deal... but please suggest additions.
ClarisWorks (AppleWorks) 5.0

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:14 pm
by ClockWise
What I really would like to link to is software that is free. So I think I will include the old Word Perfect release that is now free, but not Claris...

More

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:24 am
by Kipfi
One of the best pieces of software ever, I still use it today.
It was once quite expensive, but now Symantec allows to freely download it.
http://www.outliners.com/more31
I wish this would be the case for other old software as well.

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:41 am
by ClockWise
Nice! Thanks for the recommendation. I think I will add that one.

Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 3:30 am
by Jorpho
A utility to edit Type/Creator information can be very useful when working with files transferred from a PC. I think I eventually found "Type Resolve" (by one James Thomson) back in the day, but I can't seem to find a copy right now. Maybe just ResEdit will do?

I can't believe Snitch is still being sold for $20 after all these years. Too bad.

Perhaps there should be a link to Hypercard Player?

I often found Compact Pro to be a useful means of compressing files, and I think it might be free now. ZipIt frequently caused compatibility problems (it was too easy to forget to turn off MacBinary encoding, rendering the zipped files useless on a PC), and of course Stuffit Lite was shareware.

I also recall finding something called "Finder Fixer" that would increase the amount of RAM that the Finder could use, but I never determined if it could really do all that much good.

Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:48 am
by ClockWise
I'll check some of those out.

And by the way, a newer version of that collection is over here:

http://emaculation.com/doku.php/68k_software

It's all wikified and expanded!

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:58 pm
by Jorpho
Ah, and how could I forget my favorite, Taskmaker and Tomb of the Taskmaker, from Storm Impact software? I can't say I've played a lot of roguelikes and so I might be in error in referring to them as roguelikes, but whatever they are, they're still quite charming.

The author publicly posted the registration codes a few years ago. I think the other software from Storm Impact (MacSki comes to mind, and I think there was some sort of screenshot app) are probably likewise gratis.

For that matter, why not mention the Marathon trilogy (and that other Bungie game, Pathways Into Darkness) ? It's probably just as well to run those under Windows with Aleph One these days, though.

And of course there's Cliff Johnson's charming freeware puzzle games, along with the similar System's Twilight - some of the best reasons to emulate a classic Macintosh, those.

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:46 am
by ClockWise
So many suggestions!

I will be expanding the page soon, I guess!

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:31 pm
by ClockWise
I added More 3.1 and System's Twilight and the Marathon games and the Cliff Johnson games to the page.

Compact Pro, and the Taskmaster games are not entirely free, so I didn't add them. Interestingly, Storm Impact charges ten bucks to get a set of registration codes for everything they ever published.

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:29 pm
by ClockWise
Ps: I fixed an error that cropped up when posting to this thread. It was tied to the fact that the server has to send out an email whenever someone posts here (because someone has subscribed to this particular thread).

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:40 pm
by Jorpho
ClockWise wrote:Interestingly, Storm Impact charges ten bucks to get a set of registration codes for everything they ever published.
Huh. That's news to me. Too bad, really.

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:33 pm
by ClockWise
But did you ever play "Realmz"? Looks sort of similar.

It is free now:

http://www.fantasoft.com/realmzdivinity.htm

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:00 am
by ClockWise
What I really want now is a 68K e-mail client that can connect to gmail.

Gmail supports POP, which is easy enough for the old clients to do. But for outgoing mail it uses SMTP, which is a no-go for most old clients.

It seems that I have two choices... "Mulberry" or "Green."

Mulberry is now open source, but the source of the 68K client is not available... the application is not even distributed. Anywhere. If I found a download, I guess it would expire after 30 days.

Green is a very obscure client from the late 90s. I found a copy on archive.org, but for some reason it cannot communicate with gmail's pop servers. No idea why.

When I get home from work, I will upload a copy to the site so you guys can test it out.

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:02 am
by Ronald P. Regensburg
ClockWise wrote:But for outgoing mail it uses SMTP, which is a no-go for most old clients.
:?: Doesn't ordinary SMTP work with old clients? Maybe you mean secured connections using SSL?

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:31 pm
by ClockWise
Actually, I think I might have misspoke in that post.

I haven't used an e-mail client in a long time, and maybe I don't know how they work. I'm going to try another one and let you know if it works!

(Green did NOT work)

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:39 pm
by ClockWise
Ah. You are right. Connections using SSL.

Here's one interesting method to check mail on a 68K Mac:

http://www.fenestrated.net/~macman/68kMail/

"There are only two 68k email clients that support SMTP AUTH: Green (which seems to have been orphaned) and Mulberry (which is hard to download for 68k). There are NO 68k email clients that support SSL or STARTTLS (SSL for SMTP)."

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:40 am
by ClockWise
I added Acrobat Reader 3.02 (the last 68K compatible version) and Public Address (which includes a nice nice Telnet client).

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:26 am
by Ronald P. Regensburg
I have access to over 70,000 old Mac files (public ware and updates). I cannot give away the address (sorry) but I can try and look for files and send them here. To be able to find a file, I need the first few letters of the file name and approximate release date (year).

(The files were collected roughly between 1990 and 2005. Regrettably the collection was "cleaned" somewhere around 1997/1998 by removing older versions of at that time available newer versions.)

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 4:12 pm
by Jorpho
How could I forget Rescue! ? Excellent game, 68k exclusive, and also freeware now. A much more action-oriented alternative to EGATrek.

By the way, those games at System 7 Today sure aren't freeware, if I'm not mistaken... Maybe you can find another download for the Marathon trilogy?

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 6:29 pm
by Ronald P. Regensburg
Jorpho wrote:By the way, those games at System 7 Today sure aren't freeware, if I'm not mistaken... Maybe you can find another download for the Marathon trilogy?
Those games are freeware. What makes you think that 'System 7 Today' would charge for someone elses's freeware?

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:11 am
by ClockWise
Are some of the games there being illegally distributed? Are some of them "abandonware" rather than freeware/shareware games?

Meanwhile, System 7 Today seems to have blocked all Korean IP addresses (to weed out spam, I guess) so I can no longer access the site.

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:52 pm
by Ronald P. Regensburg
The games on the download page that 'Jorpho' linked to, are all full versions and freeware. Some used to be commercial but were eventually released as freeware at the end of their commercial life.

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 2:24 pm
by Jorpho
I'd be really, really surprised if SimCity 2000 and Escape Velocity were released as freeware, even if it's just the 68k versions. In the latter case, it still looks like Ambrosia wants $20 for it.

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 3:50 pm
by Ronald P. Regensburg
Hm, the information given by 'System 7 Today' is false then.

In the case of SimCity 2000 it may concern abandonware rather than freeware. Searching the web, one easily finds many sites where it can be downloaded as "freeware".

But also Escape Velocity can be found as "free download" on several sites.

If it is illegal, little effort is made to hide it.