Newton Connection Kit

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Bob012340
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Newton Connection Kit

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I've wanted to get my Apple Newton 120 working with the NCK for a while.
I have a Keyspan adaptor and serial cable witch works with Newton Connection from Newton Research but it doesn't have the synchronise feature.
When I try to tell NCK to synchronise it says the port is busy or Basilisk crashes and I have to force quit.
I have tried every port combination possible and it still happens and same thing if I try to set up Apple/Local Talk.

Could someone help please

The Newton is running NOS 1.3
The adaptor is a Keyspan USA-28X
System 7.5.3 on Mac OS X Mavericks
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Re: Newton Connection Kit

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"I have a keyspan adaptor..."
You're not going to have much luck with getting a serial connection through to BII unless you remap it yourself. Does the connect cable and adapter work on the host? Can you read/write from/to it using /dev or similar? Because BII's not likely to see the connection, as it doesn't see USB. IF the serial->USB connection is working, you then have to find a way to go from USB->serial, and then pipe that into BII so that it "shows up" on the modem or printer port.
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Re: Newton Connection Kit

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I'm way out of depth, I've never understood this thing at all. Please could you put it more simply. Sorry :smile: .
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Original:
[ Newton Software ] <-----> [ Old Mac ] <-----> [ Newton Serial Cable ] <-----> [ MessagePad ]

Changes:
[ Newton Software ] <-----> [ Basilisk II ] <nothing> [ New Mac ] <-----> [ Keyspan USB Serial Adapter ] <-----> [ Newton Serial Cable ] <-----> [ MessagePad ]


That's the simplest explanation. Basilisk II doesn't connect to your computer's USB ports. For those with a lot of technical knowhow, there are ways they might be able to force it to work, with a lot of fiddling around, writing software, and crossing fingers.
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Re: Newton Connection Kit

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Fusion_PC 3.0 might be worth a shot, if a emulated Quadra is preferrable.
http://ubuntuone.com/6QhE3oXfsXYeipvvH80L7C
Bob012340 could try FusionPC with WIN98 on a vintage notebook such as a ThinkPad A31.
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Notebook-IBM-Thi ... 4897.l4275
FusionPC might be an option as it could assign serial ports to the emulated Mac.

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Of course any clumsy box of the PentiumIII era with a serial port would do the same job. :)

Rather a long shot and I have to admit that I did not try FusionPC´s serial capabilities.
Serial was the "USB" of the Quadra days and Jim Drew pointed out that Mac serial devices would work with the emulator.
Once the files in question are on a HFS volume (FusionPC´s emulated HDD) it should be easy to move them to a recent Mac.

If a Windos box is available, it may be easier to use the kit for that. ;)
http://www.newted.org/download/manuals/ ... TWINUG.PDF
http://www.unna.org/unna/apple/connection_utils/
https://www.nsbasic.com/newton/info/tec ... cable.html

As the stuff is from 1995 or so, it will be wise to choose a WIN flavor of that time, e.g WIN98SE or lower.
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