I need this, but I don't need the massive CD for it; just a system folder, and if it exists, Utilities would be nice.

Make sure it's 68k and PPC!

Look on torrent sites, or I can provide a download.

I don't need the entire CD, just a small disk image of a universal install of Mac OS 8.1.

There may be some unnecessary extensions in this, but it's what you asked for and is far smaller than an ISO of the entire CD ROM. (this is 111mb uncompressed, 42mb compressed). It is a toast file just of the OS 8.1 System Folder and Utilities folder. I tested it and it boots into SS. I have compressed the toast file into a sitx archive, it will unarchive with older versions of Stuffit Expander but may have issues with other apps eg. The Unarchiver for OSX. I do not know how to make a normal .sit archive in the latest Stuffit Deluxe.


edit: see later link


As an aside, when I was testing the toast disk image by adding it to the list of volumes in SSprefs, I forgot to lock it in the Finder in the host system directory. But it still booted!

Do toast volumes mount in SS? From the contrext, they do, but if not, I don't have Toast so I can't do anything with them otherwise.

And besides, I can't extract it anyways, no StuffIt extractor for Linux and Mac OS Classic.

Sorry I should have asked, what is the host system?

I used stuffit because I don't know how else to archive this image without damaging it.

Once you have decompressed, the toast file should mount in SS if you add it to the volumes list, you don't need the toast app itself.

Better not use sitx archives. On MacOSX many do not use Stuffit anymore and older versions of Stuffit expander, as used in the emulators, cannot expand sitx. The preferred format for transfer between MacOSX and MacOSX or between MacOSX and other platforms (Windows) is the MacOSX native zip format that you get when using Compress file from the contextual menu in the Finder. Again decompressing in the MacOSX Finder (or with a utility like The Unarchiver) will preserve Mac-specific file properties like resource forks. Decompressing the zip-archive on a different platform will not preserve those properties, but they are useless there anyway. The essential part of a disk image file that can be mounted in SheepShaver by adding it to the Volumes list can do without those Mac-specific properties for that pupose.

Thanks for your info Ronald. That makes sense, all of the resource forks should be contained within the disk image anyway. I will upload as a Finder archived zip shortly. For some reason, I think due to (historical) conventions at Macintosh Garden that are unrelated to disk images, I thought .sit was the way to go.

sorry for the delay on the re-upload, i have a very erratic connection lately.

will post a 45mb zip of the 111mb toast file that can be added to the volumes list. uploading now

Hmf, I just found an old OS 8.0 CD i had around and an 8.1 update from Apple. Included everything I needed.

Next on my list of priorities is applying a patch to make OS8 run on lower emulation levels. (IIci/68030)

1. You will need a different emulator to emulate IIci/68030, like BasiliskII. SheepShaver emulates a PPC Mac.

2. The latest MacOS version that will run on a real IIci is 7.6.1. I don't think there ever was a 68030 Mac that could run MacOS 8. The earliest Mac that can run 8.0/8.1 is a Quadra 700 with 68040 processor. Also BasiliskII will not run MacOS 8 when set to emulate IIci/68030.

I am using BasiliskII for emulation right now. 040 emulation is slow for me, so I'm trying to apply the needed patch.

I did find a patch, but it's Japanese. The site was in English though and did say how you can manually apply the changes to System.

OK. As this is a topic in the SheepShaver forum it could have been that you were referring to SheepShaver emulation.

Sorry Palindrome, I also thought you were referring to use within Sheepshaver, due to it being in this subforum. I will keep the link up in case anyone else wants a small/portable 8.1 install.

Not sure why you would want to run it under the 68k setup you have described but I'm never one to disparage someone's experiments.