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 Post subject: Can't read CDs
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:45 pm 
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I own legitimate mac (original) CDs for a game, and I'm trying to use them in Sheepshaver. When I try, it tells me I need to initalize the disk, which I obviously cannot do.

I've tried making ISOs of the discs and including them in the storage section of SheepShaver, but doing that fails when I have to swap discs as I have no way of doing so.

I'm on Windows 7 (64 bit) and have places cdenable.sys in my windows/syswow64/drivers folder.

Is there anything else I can do?

If it makes any difference, the game is Pegasus Prime.


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 Post subject: Re: Can't read CDs
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:10 pm 
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SheepShaver cant read CDs on a WIN7-64 host. Its a WIN related feature unfortunately, GNU/Linux-64 or OSX-64 are working fine.
For your game, my best bet would be mounting all ISOs within SheepShaver by means of http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/virtual ... cd-utility .
Good luck!


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 Post subject: Re: Can't read CDs
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:20 pm 
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24bit wrote:
SheepShaver cant read CDs on a WIN7-64 host. Its a WIN related feature unfortunately, GNU/Linux-64 or OSX-64 are working fine.
For your game, my best bet would be mounting all ISOs within SheepShaver by means of http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/virtual ... cd-utility .
Good luck!


I don't think that would work. When I mounted all the ISOs without that, they all appeared but the game still wanted me to switch discs. I'll try it out though.

EDIT: that just consistently says insufficient system resources to mount the image

Is there anything I can use from within windows to make it think I'm swapping discs, maybe some function of sheepshaver or something to let me swap which ISOs are defined as storage?


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 Post subject: Re: Can't read CDs
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:12 am 
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I can also attach ISOs as little hard drives and it does work to an extent.
Alternatively, use Joliet or whatever utilities that can read Mac-formatted CDs.


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 Post subject: Re: Can't read CDs
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:53 am 
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kataetheweirdo wrote:
I can also attach ISOs as little hard drives and it does work to an extent.
Alternatively, use Joliet or whatever utilities that can read Mac-formatted CDs.


I've done that, and it works fine...until I need to insert disc 2.


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 Post subject: Re: Can't read CDs
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:18 am 
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Trel wrote:
I don't think that would work. When I mounted all the ISOs without that, they all appeared but the game still wanted me to switch discs. I'll try it out though.

EDIT: that just consistently says insufficient system resources to mount the image

Is there anything I can use from within windows to make it think I'm swapping discs, maybe some function of sheepshaver or something to let me swap which ISOs are defined as storage?

I believe the error you are getting appears when the image being mounted is located in the shared ("Unix") volume. You must transfer the images into one of the SheepShaver volumes before they can be mounted inside SheepShaver. In my case, my boot disk was not large enough to hold multiple CD images, so I created another volume with SheepShaver, and stored the ISO images inside there.

While I cannot say it will fix your problem, I think you should try the Virtual CD/DVD Mounter again. It is an extremely useful tool. I have encountered several games that will not run from an ISO mounted as a volume in SheepShaver, but they do recognize virtual disks mounted using this utility.


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 Post subject: Re: Can't read CDs
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:06 am 
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Elyus wrote:
Trel wrote:
I don't think that would work. When I mounted all the ISOs without that, they all appeared but the game still wanted me to switch discs. I'll try it out though.

EDIT: that just consistently says insufficient system resources to mount the image

Is there anything I can use from within windows to make it think I'm swapping discs, maybe some function of sheepshaver or something to let me swap which ISOs are defined as storage?

I believe the error you are getting appears when the image being mounted is located in the shared ("Unix") volume. You must transfer the images into one of the SheepShaver volumes before they can be mounted inside SheepShaver. In my case, my boot disk was not large enough to hold multiple CD images, so I created another volume with SheepShaver, and stored the ISO images inside there.

While I cannot say it will fix your problem, I think you should try the Virtual CD/DVD Mounter again. It is an extremely useful tool. I have encountered several games that will not run from an ISO mounted as a volume in SheepShaver, but they do recognize virtual disks mounted using this utility.


Again, the tool errors out (and the image is on the volume fine), and ISOs mount fine in Sheepshaver. I just am unable to SWAP discs when the game prompts.

Even if the tool worked, there's no way for me to swap discs with it anyway as the game is full screen.


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 Post subject: Re: Can't read CDs
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:23 am 
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Sorry that didn't solve your problem; I was hoping this game was one with multi-drive support.

However, I did some searching regarding this issue, and it appears that a lot of people have been trying to play Pegasus Prime in SheepShaver. There are several topics on Emaculation's forums regarding the game, but the most important one would be this tutorial written by Drathian:

Multi Disc Games, DVDs, Initialize Disc Fix: TUTORIAL

A video tutorial can be found here

Hope this will help. :)

Edit: Oops! I just realized these fixes may not work for you since you're running Win7-x64. Your best option may be to search through related topics and videos and see if anyone else has managed to get the game running on a setup similar to yours.


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 Post subject: Re: Can't read CDs
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:59 pm 
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Elyus wrote:
Sorry that didn't solve your problem; I was hoping this game was one with multi-drive support.

However, I did some searching regarding this issue, and it appears that a lot of people have been trying to play Pegasus Prime in SheepShaver. There are several topics on Emaculation's forums regarding the game, but the most important one would be this tutorial written by Drathian:

Multi Disc Games, DVDs, Initialize Disc Fix: TUTORIAL

A video tutorial can be found here

Hope this will help. :)

Edit: Oops! I just realized these fixes may not work for you since you're running Win7-x64. Your best option may be to search through related topics and videos and see if anyone else has managed to get the game running on a setup similar to yours.


I feel like I have to hope somebody updates that driver. I used to be able to play it when I was on XP (32) on the same machine. It's very disappointing.


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 Post subject: Re: Can't read CDs
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:48 pm 
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Here are another couple of (perhaps crazy) ideas that may be worth a shot.

If you have Win 7 Professional or Ultimate, you could try running the game through SheepShaver in Windows XP mode. This may not work, based on a comment made on the video tutorial from above.

If you are feeling particularly adventurous and still have your XP install discs, VirtualBox may be worth a try. Normally I would think speed and compatibility issues are a major problem for running emulators within emulators, but in this topic, a user says the game runs fine in SheepShaver, in Windows, running on a Mac OS X host.


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 Post subject: Re: Can't read CDs
PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:11 am 
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Elyus wrote:
Here are another couple of (perhaps crazy) ideas that may be worth a shot.

If you have Win 7 Professional or Ultimate, you could try running the game through SheepShaver in Windows XP mode. This may not work, based on a comment made on the video tutorial from above.

If you are feeling particularly adventurous and still have your XP install discs, VirtualBox may be worth a try. Normally I would think speed and compatibility issues are a major problem for running emulators within emulators, but in this topic, a user says the game runs fine in SheepShaver, in Windows, running on a Mac OS X host.


I'll try the virtualbox method tomorrow. I have a Windows 2000 guest already setup for the purpose of playing: The Journeyman Project: Turbo (the game Pegasus Prime is a remake of). I may as well try running sheepshaver from there. I shudder to think what this will do to my system o.o


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 Post subject: Re: Can't read CDs
PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:51 am 
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I have sheepshaver running on my Mac Mini. It all works perfectly fine, except it won't recognize disks. I only got it to read a disk one time, and it was the very first time I tried to use a CD in sheepshaver. The disk shows up in OSX, so it must be something with sheepshaver. I don't have the "Disable CD-ROM" box checked in the preferences either. I know this is an old chat, but help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!


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 Post subject: Re: Can't read CDs
PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:53 am 
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Image

This is what is shown when I have the disk inserted and am trying to open the recent application "Appleworks Installer"


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 Post subject: Re: Can't read CDs
PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:10 am 
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Hi,

In OSX, SheepShaver can only read a disk that is already mounted to the desktop. So let the CD appear on the desktop before starting SheepShaver.
Changing CD's is not supported. It seems the dialogue that appears wants you to change disks? Did you already start some installation? Or did you boot from that CD?

Please make sure to start from hard disk by setting "boot from any" in the preferences.

In your screenshot I see a disk called OS9. If by any chance that disk was downloaded from the redundant robot site, please know that it doesn't contain a full installation. That might cause problems.
If you installled a clean Mac OS 9 from a CD onto that disk, then you're OK.
Why is there another disk called Macintosh HD OS 9 on your desktop? If that disk contains a full installation, you need to change the order of the disks in preferences editor to boot from that disk.

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