Login  •  Register


The time is now: Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:14 am

Emaculation wiki  •  Delete all board cookies



Post new topic  Reply to topic Page 1 of 1 [ 18 posts ]
Print view Previous topic  |  Next topic
Author Message
 Post subject: Catalina update
PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 12:57 pm 
Offline
Granny Smith

Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:46 am
Posts: 140
Hi ... I read that Catalina has issues with specific Mac OS computers ? I have an iMac 27" (late 2013). Is there an update on Catalina's compatibility with SheepSaver ? Is it safe to update to Catalina or should I wait for a later build ?


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
 Post subject: Re: Catalina update
PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:39 pm 
Offline
Forum All-Star
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:47 pm
Posts: 1333
Location: Germany
I tried 15.0.32 from AppStore with a MBP 8,1 HackBook and did not encounter issues.
Its a known fact that 32bit apps won´t work anymore, including Basilisk GUI and the standalone SheepShaver GUI.
For me Catalina feels as usable as Mojave, though there will be no "must have" new features for "dated" hardware. ;)
On my side AppStore is offering version 15.0.33 now, I may give it another go the next days.

If you have to edit the hidden Basilik II / SheepShaver prefs files manually, I found this helpful:
https://nektony.com/products/funter
If you don´t like Terminal, that is.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
 Post subject: Re: Catalina update
PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:49 pm 
Offline
Granny Smith

Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:46 am
Posts: 140
Thanks. How would I know if my iMac 27" (late 2013) is clear for Catalina ?


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
 Post subject: Re: Catalina update
PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:24 pm 
Offline
Expert User
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:24 pm
Posts: 5670
Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands
According to info from Apple, your iMac is compatible with Catalina: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210222

I usually wait at least 6 months after a new macOS version is made available. I see no compelling reason to upgrade from Mojave to Catalina sooner.

The latest SheepShaver and BasiliskII builds I posted here will run in Catalina (both 64-bit and notarized).

BasiliskIIGUi is 32-bit and will not run in Catalina. Our member munkymajic is working on a new BasiliskIIGUi. I expect a first public beta to be available soon.


Last edited by Ronald P. Regensburg on Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:25 pm, edited 1 time in total.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
 Post subject: Re: Catalina update
PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:29 pm 
Offline
Granny Smith

Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:46 am
Posts: 140
Thanks Ronald ... Six (6) months ? Wow that is long before enjoying a new software update. I'll try to be that patient.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
 Post subject: Re: Catalina update
PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:01 pm 
Offline
Expert User
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:24 pm
Posts: 5670
Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands
Well, it depends on how anxious you are to be able to use some new features. Running a new macOS is not always a joy. Early versions are often plagued by bugs. Catalina is no exception.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
 Post subject: Re: Catalina update
PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:47 pm 
Offline
Granny Smith

Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:46 am
Posts: 140
While I cannot agree more, I have never been doing that. I am resisting with Catalina, for I don't know the reason. Time will tell if Catalina is an exception, for me at least.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
 Post subject: Re: Catalina update
PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:51 pm 
Offline
Forum All-Star
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:47 pm
Posts: 1333
Location: Germany
Installing 10.15 onto an external FW or USB3 drive may be an option for the curious but late adopters.
Still have a working Sierra instance on a 128GB SSD. ;)


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
 Post subject: Re: Catalina update
PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 7:10 pm 
Offline
Forum All-Star
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:11 am
Posts: 2757
Location: Emaculation.com
For me, as long as VirtualBox supports the previous OS version, I'm happy :) Any software that won't run on Catalina just goes into the VM. Of course, starting with Mojave, VirtualBox becomes trickier to install, due to VB not having native APFS support.

I held off on Catalina until I started needing to do some serious testing of compile systems; running XCode in a VM is a real pain when doing things in volume.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
 Post subject: Re: Catalina update
PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:23 pm 
Offline
Granny Smith

Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:46 am
Posts: 140
Good morning ... I just realized that my SheepShaverPrefs app was not 64 bit. Is that app still useful with Catalina ?


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
 Post subject: Re: Catalina update
PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:53 pm 
Offline
Expert User
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:24 pm
Posts: 5670
Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands
The stand-alone SheepShaverPrefs app will not run in Catalina.
The latest SheepShaver build I posted does run in Catalina and so does the built-in prefs editor.

Your SheepShaverPrefs app is not used much anymore. Some seem to use it still, but I myself have not used it in years. It is not needed at setup (a rom file named "Mac OS ROM" will be recognized) and since the availability of the full-screen mode toggle it is also not needed anymore to access the prefs editor when SheepShaver is launched in full-screen mode.

It could be useful, though, in rare situations where the built-in prefs editor cannot be used because SheepShaver crashes before it is available.

The code for a 64-bit prefs editor must be available in the current SheepShaver source code. I do not know if it can be compiled as a separate application.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
 Post subject: Re: Catalina update
PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:56 pm 
Offline
Granny Smith

Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:46 am
Posts: 140
Thanks a lot Ronald for your precious comments.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
 Post subject: Re: Catalina update
PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:16 pm 
Offline
Granny Smith

Joined: Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:42 pm
Posts: 101
24bit wrote:
If you have to edit the hidden Basilik II / SheepShaver prefs files manually, I found this helpful:
https://nektony.com/products/funter
If you don´t like Terminal, that is.


From what I see on that website it's a tool to show/hide invisible files? You can do that in Finder by pressing cmd+shift+. (dot)


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
 Post subject: Re: Catalina update
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:12 pm 
Offline
Granny Smith

Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:46 am
Posts: 140
Thanks.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
 Post subject: Re: Catalina update
PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:42 pm 
Offline
Space Cadet

Joined: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:37 pm
Posts: 2
Hi.
Since I made the Catalina update last weekend, with Sheepshaver installed in V2.5, Sheepshave is not working anymore on my iMac.
When I launch the application, I got a black screen with the rainbow wheel turning endlessly. I presume I may need to set some security preferences to make it working but I have no clue of what to do to fix that. I didn't find the answer on the forum either. Does anybody know what to do ?
Thank you.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
 Post subject: Re: Catalina update
PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:05 pm 
Offline
Expert User
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:24 pm
Posts: 5670
Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands
SheepShaver is probably set to launch in full-screen mode. The issue is discussed in this topic: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=10392

SheepShaver will start normally in window mode and after that the control-return full-screen toggle will work as expected. To set SheepShaver to be launched in window mode, you will need to edit the prefs file manually in TextEdit as described here: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=10392&start=25#p64506

You can also try the workaround described here: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=10392&start=25#p64469:


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
 Post subject: Re: Catalina update
PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 2:32 pm 
Offline
Space Cadet

Joined: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:37 pm
Posts: 2
Thank you. I followed your procedure to go to the window display mode and it is now working.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
 Post subject: Re: Catalina update
PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:17 pm 
Offline
Granny Smith

Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:46 am
Posts: 140
Thanks again Ronald. Your help is invaluable.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic  Reply to topic Page 1 of 1 [ 18 posts ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 9 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
 

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group