The official "Post your PearPC boot time" thread

PPC_Digger · Post by **PPC_Digger** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 2:49 pm

mallchin wrote:Yep, it's the source I'm after but does cvs contain the community builds too? I had assumed it would contain the latest official branch, 0.3.x.

Lemme login and take a peek

*edit* No luck, the latest on sourceforge is 0.3.x (I have that compiled and working)...

CVS is the first place updates are put after they are ready, so if you want the latest version, use CVS.

mallchin · Post by **mallchin** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 3:32 pm

Yep, thanks for the tip.

I've downloaded and compiled cvs and have 0.4pre running, sweet

willhart · Post by **willhart** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:43 am

I've got a 2.4 ghz P4 computer running Windows XP.
My PearPC is version 0.4pre, with SDL, Altivec, and Panther.
My boot time with redraw interval set to 500 is 2 minutes, 8 seconds.
My boot time with redraw interval set to 10 is 2 minutes, 9 seconds.

The only difference between with setting the redraw interval as low as possible is that everything looks better. It doesn't seem to affect startup time. PearPC feels a lot better with the redraw interval set to 10, and it actually doesn't seem to affect performace. Someone probably has some evidence that for certain tasks redraw interval works better higher, but unless I know what that is, I'd say it seems fine to turn your redraw down from whatever it's at right now to 10. The only problem is that the mouse sometimes goes between buttersmooth to jumpy depending on what's running in PearPC.

liquex · Post by **liquex** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 12:33 am

Pentium 4 @ 2.4GHz
768 MB PC2100
160GB Seagate 7200 RPM, 2 MB Cache
Windows XP Professional

PearPC 0.4pre (rgoodwin p4 build, sept. 24)
Mac OS 10.3 Panther

Boots in 1 minute and 40 seconds

Damn! Good speed! I still think that hardware graphics acceleration will bring things up another notch, maybe shave 10 seconds off of the boot time, and Mac OS will run a hell of a lot faster... there's a lot of things going on-screen when it's actually in the OS.

mmm...fast user switching

willhart · Post by **willhart** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 1:59 am

There are three reasons why people like Mac OS X:
1. The Genie effect looks really cool.
2. Fast user switching looks really cool.
3. Zooming looks really cool.

But seriously, OS X is a pretty solid OS.

PPC_Digger · Post by **PPC_Digger** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 4:36 pm

willhart wrote:There are three reasons why people like Mac OS X:
1. The Genie effect looks really cool.
2. Fast user switching looks really cool.
3. Zooming looks really cool.

And these things look nasty on PearPC. I WANT NATIVE GRAPHICS (I also want a powermac g5, but whatever).

willhart · Post by **willhart** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 6:41 pm

M$ must really have something wrong with their developer team. They're all genuises, and Apple has so many less developers and everything Apple does is so innovative and cool. Seriously, if it wasn't for Apple, we'd all still be using DOS. Well maybe not, but computers would suck.

Yukon Kid · Post by **Yukon Kid** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 5:38 am

just to stray a little bit.
you are wrong to think that apple started the gui thing, they copied the idea from unix xwindows.
now before you jump up and down, I will say that they did it the correct way.
now i want to get gwindows to work on my mac but it is written for microware os9, I like that gui.
so you like the look, how about liking the underlying program, that is what makes thing hum, and win just plain sux, mac os's have been stable, but I like unix type computers. it is the grand daddy of them all.
that is why mac osx rocks, because it is solid

ali · Post by **ali** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 6:46 am

Yukon Kid wrote:just to stray a little bit.
you are wrong to think that apple started the gui thing, they copied the idea from unix xwindows.
now before you jump up and down, I will say that they did it the correct way.
now i want to get gwindows to work on my mac but it is written for microware os9, I like that gui.
so you like the look, how about liking the underlying program, that is what makes thing hum, and win just plain sux, mac os's have been stable, but I like unix type computers. it is the grand daddy of them all.
that is why mac osx rocks, because it is solid

The first GUI created by XEROX and apple got some ideas from it with their permissions as far as I know.

robojam · Post by **robojam** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 1:33 pm

Yes you're right - it was Xerox.

rudefyet · Post by **rudefyet** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 12:49 pm

i can't wait to post boot times for the laptop i just ordered

PPC_Digger · Post by **PPC_Digger** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 1:23 pm

rudefyet wrote:i can't wait to post boot times for the laptop i just ordered

Spec?

rudefyet · Post by **rudefyet** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 2:27 pm

PPC_Digger wrote:
rudefyet wrote:i can't wait to post boot times for the laptop i just ordered
Spec?

As of now
Athlon XP-M 2800+
256mb ram
15.4 widescreen
G-Force 4 440 Go w/ 64mb DDR

But those are base specs...it can take up to 2 gigs of ram and supports the latest Athlon 64 processors...i just don't have enough money for a Athlon 64 3800+ and 2 gigs of ram right now :D

PPC_Digger · Post by **PPC_Digger** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:45 pm

I've never heard of an athlon-64 laptop that had more than 2 hours of battary life, But you might want to save and get 512 mb of ram. My laptop is really slow because of the lack of memory (it's running xp with 256 mb of ram).
My cousin has a GeForce 440 64mb ddr and he never complained about it.

rudefyet · Post by **rudefyet** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 6:38 pm

i'm not worried about battery life....it will stay plugged in almost 99% anyways...i just like being able to mobe from room to room easily

as for ram...yeah...definitely need more...but to keep it cheap as possible i'll have to live with 256 for a month or 2

PPC_Digger · Post by **PPC_Digger** » Sun Oct 10, 2004 5:15 pm

Just another small tip, I storngly recommend you start with one 512 mb card and not 256, because most laptops come with only one extra memory slot, so you'll be stuck with 512 (unless it supports more than a gigabyte of ram. Besides, if you want to upgrade to a gigabyte when you have 2 cards of 256, you will have to replace them, which will cost a lot more.)

willhart · Post by **willhart** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 1:32 am

A little more on topic...

I just downloaded the newest 0.4pre from remote CVS with pretty much everything (SDL, Altivec, P4-optimization, O3) and I have broken my computer's PearPC boot time record with a 1:38 boot time. Hooray for me! I can feel the speed.

rudefyet · Post by **rudefyet** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 9:57 pm

i got my new laptop a few days again

Athlon XP-M 2800+ "K8" based (guys at AMD told me it should perform as good as an A64 2800+ does in 32 bit mode)
256mb of ram (yeah i know)
NVIDIA Geforce 4 440 Go
Nforce 3 based Motherboard

i did both regular and sdl tests
from selection of boot device till desktop is fully loaded
.4pre reg - 1:36
.4pre sdl - 1:37

the sdl was a second slower but in turn the animations were much smoother!

PPC_Digger · Post by **PPC_Digger** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 6:07 pm

rudefyet wrote:i got my new laptop a few days again

Athlon XP-M 2800+ "K8" based (guys at AMD told me it should perform as good as an A64 2800+ does in 32 bit mode)
256mb of ram (yeah i know)
NVIDIA Geforce 4 440 Go
Nforce 3 based Motherboard

i did both regular and sdl tests
from selection of boot device till desktop is fully loaded
.4pre reg - 1:36
.4pre sdl - 1:37

the sdl was a second slower but in turn the animations were much smoother!

What do you mean much smoother? How many frames did the genie effect do?

rudefyet · Post by **rudefyet** » Sun Oct 31, 2004 5:33 am

PPC_Digger wrote:
rudefyet wrote:i got my new laptop a few days again

Athlon XP-M 2800+ "K8" based (guys at AMD told me it should perform as good as an A64 2800+ does in 32 bit mode)
256mb of ram (yeah i know)
NVIDIA Geforce 4 440 Go
Nforce 3 based Motherboard

i did both regular and sdl tests
from selection of boot device till desktop is fully loaded
.4pre reg - 1:36
.4pre sdl - 1:37

the sdl was a second slower but in turn the animations were much smoother!
What do you mean much smoother? How many frames did the genie effect do?

by smoother i mean the framerate was higher for the most part

genie effect used maybe 5 frames in sdl while it was about 3 in regular

PPC_Digger · Post by **PPC_Digger** » Sun Oct 31, 2004 10:07 am

rudefyet wrote:
PPC_Digger wrote:
rudefyet wrote:i got my new laptop a few days again

Athlon XP-M 2800+ "K8" based (guys at AMD told me it should perform as good as an A64 2800+ does in 32 bit mode)
256mb of ram (yeah i know)
NVIDIA Geforce 4 440 Go
Nforce 3 based Motherboard

i did both regular and sdl tests
from selection of boot device till desktop is fully loaded
.4pre reg - 1:36
.4pre sdl - 1:37

the sdl was a second slower but in turn the animations were much smoother!
What do you mean much smoother? How many frames did the genie effect do?
by smoother i mean the framerate was higher for the most part

genie effect used maybe 5 frames in sdl while it was about 3 in regular

Oh, well, didn't expect a smooth genie for the next 1-2 years.

sparticat · Post by **sparticat** » Wed Nov 17, 2004 10:54 pm

Host-
IBM Thinkpad R50p running Debian Sid
Pentium M 1.8Ghz cpu
2GB RAM
60GB 7200rpm hd

PearPC 0.3.1 booting MacOSX 10.3 --- 1:17
OSX shows PowerPC 850Mhz G3, 240MB RAM

tomaszjc7 · Post by **tomaszjc7** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 1:06 am

3.2Ghz
2 Gb RAM
XP

49 seconds from command line to fully loaded OS (OSX)