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Browser share?

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Over the past thirty days, these have been the popular browsers to this website:

Among Windows users (57% of site visitors):

Firefox: 51% of all visitors
IE: 34% of all visitors
Chrome: 7% of all visitors
Opera: 5% of all visitors
Safari: 4% of all visitors
Seamonkey: 1% of all visitors

Among Mac users (35% of site visitors):

Safari: 66%
Firefox 30%
Camino: 2%
Mozilla: .5%

Chrome is quickly becoming popular. Will Google stop giving money to Firefox in an attempt to grab an even bigger share of the market?
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Among Windows users of this website:

August: Firefox 50.4%, IE 33.4%, Chrome 7.2%
September: Firefox 48.9%, IE 34.2%, Chrome 7.8%

Chrome is really grabbing some market-share, at least among tech-savvy users like you guys...
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it would be good to see classilla up on that list...... :wink:
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Through the first half of October, Chrome has been used by 8.8% of Windows users who visit this site.

Astonishing!
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October:

Firefox: 54.1%
IE: 30%
Chrome: 8.4%
Opera: 3.7%

Chrome continues to expand its user base!
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Are you sure it's Chrome, or maybe derivatives like SRWare Iron and Chrome Plus?
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I'm not sure!

The tracking is from Google Analytics. I'll have to check around to see tha accuracy of Google's tracking.

Maybe they would be happy to inflate Chrome's user share a little bit.

Anyhow: what are these derivatives? I've never heard of either of them...
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Anyhow: what are these derivatives? I've never heard of either of them...
Essentially, they are the Google Chrome equivalents to derivatives of Mozilla Firefox (like Flock, K-Meleon, etc.) Their main advantage is that they tend to have more up-to-date features compared to Chrome (like having the latest version of WebKit), have more built-in features compared to Chrome (mouse gestures, ad-block, etc.), while removing all the malicious features Chrome has.
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I like the look of those. Chrome is a very nice browser. I upgraded to FireFox 3 with much annoyance... the bloat is getting out of control.

Fun link:

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=723962

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"What the fuck are 250 paid employees doing at Mozilla?"
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Interesting to see the browser stats.

Here, I am still using Opera on Windows. But I have Classilla on my Lombard and am really liking it.

As this is a Mac site you may have missed it, but there was an interesting blog post on the PC Pro website about their site's browser statistics. He was asking why some people had visited the site on an Amiga. And plenty of people where asking why Windows 95 was so high up on the list.

http://forum.classicamiga.com/forum/sho ... php?t=3790
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/28 ... -an-amiga/

I just checked the stats for the extremely popular stevecoates.net website and found that Internet Explorer and Firefox are the two most popular browsers used to visit my site. Opera comes third, which means that other people must visit the site more than I do.

This month the site has received five hits from ClockWise's Kegs page and about 80 hits from Google Images.

The search keywords is always interesting. It seems alot of people have found my site by looking for information on Avo Meters and Trinitron monitors which is something my site has pages about. But someone came there by searching for 'stephen coates geography'. I searched for that on google, and the first result is an RTF file containing my CV. I'm surprised google indexed that. I only put it there to show to some people in an IRC channel. I'm not sure whether it being there is a good thing or not :?.

Source: Awstats.
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ClockWise wrote: Seamonkey: 1% of all visitors
Maybe I am the only active registered member here who use Seamonkey as default browser on Windows.
Seamonkey is the only real direct descendant of Netscape Communicator and is still being actively developed.
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yksoft1 wrote:Seamonkey is the only real direct descendant of Netscape Communicator and is still being actively developed.
And still with all its features: Browser, Composer, Mail, NewsGroups, ChatZilla IRC client.

I always update to the latest version (MacOSX), but I hardly use it anymore. The Composer can be useful for simple editing of existing web pages, but it has the nasty habit of changing source formatting.
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I always update to the latest version (MacOSX), but I hardly use it anymore. The Composer can be useful for simple editing of existing web pages, but it has the nasty habit of changing source formatting.
You may want to try Kompozer instead. It's an updated, standalone composer derived from the Mozilla composer.
And plenty of people where asking why Windows 95 was so high up on the list.
Because it was the last version of Windows that wasn't bloated (other than NT4).
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Ambassador wrote:You may want to try Kompozer instead.
Thanks. I tried Kompozer on an existing XHTML 1.0 Transitional page that passes W3C markup validation fine, but Kompozer clearly shows where it comes from:

It has the same annoying habit as Composer in SeaMonkey of changing source formatting (hard-wrapping text), even when "Retain original source formatting" is selected in preferences.

It also adds by itself returns (<br /> tags) when I do nothing but adding some text to an existing paragraph without ever touching the enter or return key.

And it changed by itself coding in a list (with CSS showing as a menu) from

Code: Select all

<li><a class="bottom" href="javascript: void(0)"></a></li>
into

Code: Select all

<li><a class="bottom" href="javascript: void(0)" /><br />
</li>
thus completely destroying the appearance of the whole page.

It would be nice to have a simple WYSIWYG editor that respects existing code.
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Post by Ambassador »

This one is WYSIWYG:

Quanta Plus

No Windows port though.

This may also do:

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Here's what the visitors to this site looked like in November:

(I block all visitors from Korea from being counted, as a way of removing myself)

Operating System

Macintosh: 49.7%
Windows: 45.9%
Linux: 3.1%
iPhone: 0.37% (108 total visitors!)
iPod: 0.14%
Wii: 0.11%
SunOS: 0.03% (8 total visitors!)
and so on

Windows Breakdown

XP: 53%
NT and Windows 7 (Google still can't tell the difference): 22%
Vista: 19%
2000: 3%
98: 0.24% (32 total visitors!)
ME: 0.04% (6 total visitors!)
95: 0.01% (1 lonely visitor)


Windows Browser Usage

Firefox: 50.6%
IE: 30.14%
Chrome 8.64% (up again!)
Opera: 6.54%
Safari: 3.38%
SeaMonkey: 0.33%
Mozilla: 0.22%

A single lonely guy showed up with Netscape.

Macintosh Browser Usage

Safari: 67.1%
Firefox: 28.8%
Camino: 1.1%
Opera: 0.85%
Chrome: 0.77% (this is new!!)
Mozilla: 0.23%
SeaMonkey: 0.16%
IE: 0.14% (what??)
Netscape: 0.13%

iCab was used one time.


Geography

USA: 37.52% of visitors
France: 6.3%
Canada: 6.2%
Germany: 6.04%
Japan: 5.78%
UK: 5.63%
Italy: 2.99
Austria: 2.90%
Netherlands: 2.34%
Spain: 2.21%

Most Viewed URLs (aside from the forum and wiki index):

http://www.emaculation.com/doku.php/sheepshaver (9682 views)
http://www.emaculation.com/doku.php/she ... os_x_setup (7432 views)
http://www.emaculation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5911 (3492 views)
http://www.emaculation.com/doku.php/pearpc_setup (2510 views)
http://www.emaculation.com/doku.php/sheepshaver_setup (2255 views)
http://www.emaculation.com/doku.php/mac ... rom_images (2231) ha ha ha
http://www.emaculation.com/doku.php/basilisk_ii_setup (2168 views)
http://www.emaculation.com/doku.php/basilisk_ii
http://www.emaculation.com/doku.php/pearpc
http://www.emaculation.com/doku.php/mini_vmac
http://www.emaculation.com/doku.php/softmac
http://www.emaculation.com/doku.php/mini_vmac_setup
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Post by kikkoman »

see? there are more Windows 'participants' and visitors to this site than there are from the Linux arena..... so maybe that would mean that there really should be more focus on developing emulators for the Windows side? (wink-wink, nudge-nudge) :wink:
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You know, it wasn't until about two months ago when there was a large increase in traffic that the number of Macintosh visitors finally overtook the number of Windows users. Now, finally, this is a Macintosh site.

When the site started it was probably about 95% Windows. Now just 45%!
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How People Found This Site in November

Google: 10 533 people
insanelymac.com: 2,614 people
tuaw.com: 842 people
Gwenole's site: 763 people
Macintosh Garden: 752 people
stumbleupon: 458 people
wikipedia: 454 people
TidBits: 426 people
The Mini vMac Page: 414
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Yahoo: 208 people (this is the second most popular search engine)
Bing: 183 people (this is the third most frequent search engine)
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Altavista: 8 people trapped in the 1990s.
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In December:

Windows Browsers:

Firefox: 48.79%
Internet Explorer: 28.92%
Chrome: 10.79%
Opera: 8.47%
Safari: 2.32%

Chrome continues to get more and more popular. It was used by 2.1% of Macintosh users, also.
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Chrome continues to get more and more popular. It was used by 2.1% of Macintosh users, also.
All the more data for Google to exploit. :lol:
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According to cnet, Chrome is growing among everyone, not just the sort of tech-savvy people that visit this place:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10423733-2.html

"Chrome jumped from 3.9 percent to 4.6 percent of usage, according to statistics that analytics firm Net Applications publishes based on the 160 million monthly visitors to the network of Web sites using its services. Safari increased from 4.4 percent to 4.5 percent."

"Also according to Net Applications' statistics, Microsoft's Internet Explorer continued its steady slide, dropping from 63.6 percent to 62.7 percent usage. Most of IE's share loss has been picked up by No. 2 Firefox, but that open-source browser slipped from 24.7 percent to 24.6 percent from November to December."
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Well, at least IE is continue to drop in popularity, but I don't think switching to Google Chrome is the way to go. At least they should use SRWare Iron or ChromePlus.
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Well, I imagine that most of the time those Chrome variants show up as Chrome. Do any traffic monitoring thingies have the ability to tell the difference?
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Perhaps a unique browser ID. Then again, Mozilla IDs tend to be very similar, so perhaps not.
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