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running a cd-rom on sheepshaver

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:49 am
by Romain
Hello,
I have also tried to load a CD in sheepshaver (on Mac OS X 10.11.6), following your advices.
Now I am stuck at the last step: "Use the SheepShaver preferences editor to add the image to the volumes list. Shut down and restart SheepShaver. The CD will show up on the desktop".
As I cannot choice the preferences directly I started MacOS9 with the option key so to get the menu.
Here is what I get:
1) Set MacOS9 s... en size options
2) Select OSX/m...9 Unix folder
3)Create/manage...data disc image
4)Restore default....references file
5)Copy MacOS9 macOS desktop
6) open user-spe.... folder Finder
7Open MacOS9....folder in finder
8)Quit without opening MacOS9

When I select now number 3) I am asked: "Delete existing user data disk image, or delete and replace with a new one". Obviously it's not what I need.

Maybe you have an advice for me so to see my Cubase VST image CD on the OS9 desktop.
Thanks for any help,
Romain

Re: running a cd-rom on sheepshaver

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:13 am
by Ronald P. Regensburg
You apparently do not use a regular SheepShaver setup. What do you use and where did you get it?

Re: running a cd-rom on sheepshaver

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:33 am
by Romain
Hello,
It is SheepShaver MacOS9 (2014.12.22).
Honestly, I can't remember where I have found it as I am desperately trying to run my Cubase, or on my old original Mac G4 or on my 2 years old MacBook, reading a lot and looking for solutions wherever possible. Maybe on one of the OS9 Forums I found it, but I am not sure about that.
So, shall I download another version of Sheepshaver? It would be a pity if somebody copied your work, maybe there is another explanation for the behaviour. When I choose "preferences" in Sheepshaver I receive an message saying: This system does not use the standard SheepShaver preferences pane.
To set preferences, hold down the Option key when starting the application and use the menus.
Also see the detailed instructions: http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/macos9osx.html
Romain

Re: running a cd-rom on sheepshaver

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:56 pm
by 24bit
I´m not wanting to scatter anybody´s illusions, but I don´t think that Cubase VST 24 will run in SheepShaver.
I had a short look at this: http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/cubase-vst24-40
The app hangs in demo mode, after complaining about missing SCSI HHDs.

Image

Basilisk II build 142 and Fusion PC do have SCSI and floppy support, but both can´t run PPC apps.
Another downside, there is no MIDI support in Basilisk II or SheepShaver.
It seems that Cubase VST needs a special floppy for unlocking, but we can´t use floppies with SheepShaver.
Maybe an image of such a master floppy would work, but I doubt it.

Cubase Audio 2.X is said to be working with SheepShaver and Basilisk II.
http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/cubase-audio-20
However there is this hint on the above page:
Warning: This software is copy protected, only users with the Cubase Audio hardware key (red) *AND* the Master Disk will be able to use this software.
The hardware key likely was a ADB dongle, so thats another dead end, I´m afraid.

Re: running a cd-rom on sheepshaver

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:46 pm
by Romain
Hello,
I am able to open the demo version so to see my scores (in spite of having lots of error messages), unfortunately I can't print them out of the demo, so I want to authorize the Vst 4.1 score version and therefore I need to have the CD of 4.0 on the desktop (following the advices of another forum).
Romain

Re: running a cd-rom on sheepshaver

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:07 pm
by Ronald P. Regensburg
You are running a specific pre-configured SheepShaver setup. I moved this part of the thread to the "Other SheepShaver configurations" subforum. I suppose that our member emendelson can help you with mounting the image as CD. That will not solve the need for the hardware key, though.

Re: running a cd-rom on sheepshaver

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:44 am
by Romain
Hello,
it is in fact easy to load the CD image, following the advice in "Columbia.edu": one has only to drop the image on the Mac OS9 app before launching. Unfortunately there is not enough room on the disk "Mac OS 9" to copy the image. I dont't know where I could rise the dedicated memory.
Romain

Re: running a cd-rom on sheepshaver

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:17 pm
by emendelson
Romain wrote:Hello,
it is in fact easy to load the CD image, following the advice in "Columbia.edu": one has only to drop the image on the Mac OS9 app before launching. Unfortunately there is not enough room on the disk "Mac OS 9" to copy the image. I dont't know where I could rise the dedicated memory.
Romain
If you need more disk space, look back at the page at columbia.edu, and read the paragraph that begins "The virtual hard disk in the system". It tells you everything that you need to know.

Re: running a cd-rom on sheepshaver

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:34 am
by Romain
Hello, thanks for your advice. Meanwhile I have enough disc-space, but the Sheepshaver-version I have does not behave as expected when I put the CD on the OS9 icon; as I am told on the page of Colombia.edu:"To add or replace a disk image with this system, shut down the Mac OS 9 app and drop a disk image on its icon. You will be prompted to perform the next steps". Unfortunately I am not prompted anything, the app simply opens, and I tried with various CD-Roms. So I suppose I am missing something. Maybe somebody can guess what it might be?

Re: running a cd-rom on sheepshaver

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:46 am
by emendelson
Rename your disk image so that it has the extension .dmg, .dsk, or .iso. (I have now made this clear on my web page; please return to the page and refresh your browser with Cmd-R so that it shows the current version of the page.)

When you rename the disk image, use Cmd-I to make sure that the extension is NOT hidden and NOT the original extension, whatever it might have been.

EDIT: I've updated the app so that it will respond in the following way if you drop a file with the extensions .hfv, or .cdr or .img: the app will ask you whether you want to copy it to the Mac OS 9 desktop or mount it. Are there any other disk-image extensions I should ask about?

SECOND EDIT: I'll modify the code so that it will also try to mount a .toast image.

Re: running a cd-rom on sheepshaver

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:36 pm
by adespoton
You may want to add .iso if you don't have that already; not sure about .bin (as in bin/cue).

Re: running a cd-rom on sheepshaver

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:04 pm
by emendelson
emendelson wrote:Rename your disk image so that it has the extension .dmg, .dsk, or .iso.
As it says up there, ".iso" is included. Haven't thought about ".bin". Will add that the list of file types for which I prompt the user to decide what to do with it.

Re: running a cd-rom on sheepshaver

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:33 am
by Ronald P. Regensburg
You may also consider adding .cdr, the extension for 'DVD/CD master' images created by Disk Utility in OSX/macOS.

Re: running a cd-rom on sheepshaver

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:22 pm
by emendelson
Ronald P. Regensburg wrote:You may also consider adding .cdr, the extension for 'DVD/CD master' images created by Disk Utility in OSX/macOS.
Already in:
emendelson wrote:I've updated the app so that it will respond in the following way if you drop a file with the extensions .hfv, or .cdr or .img: the app will ask you whether you want to copy it to the Mac OS 9 desktop or mount it.