Login  •  Register


The time is now: Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:20 pm

Emaculation wiki  •  Delete all board cookies



Post new topic  Reply to topic Page 6 of 7 [ 171 posts ]    Go to page Previous  1 ... 3, 4, 5, 6, 7  Next
Print view Previous topic  |  Next topic
Author Message
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:09 am 
Offline
Space Cadet

Joined: Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:10 am
Posts: 3
Tested the lastest April 2018 Final Build.
Internet works no need to install and that even uses my PCI-Express Wi-Fi adapter !! Amazing.
I was even able to network Host and Guest so it's coming close to Sheepshaver (slowly but greatly :) )

I was able to get sound working on os 9.2.1 but it's choppy. Any workaround for that ?

Thanks !


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:44 am 
Offline
Expert User
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2004 8:59 am
Posts: 4524
Location: Sittard, The Netherlands
To get the best sound support currently available, you should use the latest build with support for the screamer sound device.
Note that you then do not need -device usb-audio on the command line.

This is the latest experimental build with screamer support:
http://www.open.ou.nl/hsp/downloads3/wi ... 122017.zip

Best,
Cat_7


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:48 pm 
Offline
Tinkerer
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 10, 2015 7:50 pm
Posts: 73
Image

THE SOUND WORKS IN JUNE 26TH EXPERIMENTAL RELEASE!!! Been waiting for this version for almost 2 years now. That is incredible, congratulations to whoever fixed this! Am I awake or is this a dream?! AT LAST!

MINOR annoyances I can live with, but would be nice in the next release:
1) CONTROL + ALT doesn't release the mouse cursor out of QEMU anymore. I see it's now CONTROL + ALT + G... but why so complicated?!
2a) Whoever made the WINDOWS KEY emulate the COMMAND KEY is nice, but couldn't it be ALT instead like SheepShaver? It makes the Windows start menu pop up every time I press it, super annoying.
2b) Can't copy/paste easily in Mac OS 9.2 using QEMU, when pressing WINDOWS KEY + ALT + C it does work, but it's complicated. Would prefer ALT + C like in SheepShaver. Also the Windows start menu would shut the F up if we could stop using the WINDOWS KEY.
3) Sometimes while using QEMU with Mac OS 9.2 the mouse cursor jumps to a corner or the bottom of the screen.
4) Speed improvement
5) QEMU in general: In the console window (CONTROL + ALT + 2) it would be nice to have copy/paste support!


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:48 pm 
Offline
Inquisitive Elf

Joined: Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:31 pm
Posts: 29
Location: Russia
that-ben, same here - I fully share all your comments on the recent build.
that-ben wrote:
3) Sometimes while using QEMU with Mac OS 9.2 the mouse cursor jumps to a corner or the bottom of the screen.
On older builds I was suffering from the "crazyness" of the mouse - its cursor could jump here and there without any reason, so it was impossible to work! I tried different suggestions and one option did the trick (more or less):
Code:
-usbdevice mouse
which now turned into
Code:
-device usb-mouse
After setting that I see almost no cursor random jumps.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:09 pm 
Offline
Tinkerer
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 10, 2015 7:50 pm
Posts: 73
Official build 14-08-2018 does not support sound anymore. Sticking with 2018-06-26 until this gets ported over into the official QEMU 3 build :(


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:56 am 
Offline
Space Cadet

Joined: Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:48 am
Posts: 1
Hi Cat

For a while I struggle to make the OS 9.2 emulation to work. The folder downloaded from that-ben seems to work, I even added another 30G HD (by the way my physical machine broke down and no one can repair it). As I need to upload all programs from the machine I need to make it visible.
I created an iso disc with some documents, I gave it a name Apple CD.iso and in the qemu bat file I added as in the instructions "-drive file=Apple CD.iso,format=raw,media=cdrom". Not only that it does not appear on the desktop, but the qemu...bat does not even start (just a flick of a DOS screen and then nothing. Could you please help me getting this to work?
Meanwhile enjoy your weekend
Thank you


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:38 am 
Offline
Expert User
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2004 8:59 am
Posts: 4524
Location: Sittard, The Netherlands
Hi,

If you use spaces in a filename, you have to use " " around that filename for Qemu to understand it.
Please try to rename your Apple CD.iso to AppleCD.iso. Then change the command line and try again.

Best,
Cat_7


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:13 am 
Offline
Forum All-Star
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:11 am
Posts: 2474
Location: Emaculation.com
You can also escape the spaces instead of quoting the name: ~/Emulation/Apple\ CD.iso or "~/Emulation/Apple CD.iso"


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:20 pm 
Offline
Tinkerer
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 10, 2015 7:50 pm
Posts: 73
Uhm. I think something is wrong with your sticky post ;-)

Image


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:33 pm 
Offline
Tinkerer
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 10, 2015 7:50 pm
Posts: 73
mrpatras wrote:
Hi Cat
I created an iso disc with some documents, I gave it a name Apple CD.iso and in the qemu bat file I added as in the instructions "-drive file=Apple CD.iso,format=raw,media=cdrom". Not only that it does not appear on the desktop, but the qemu...bat does not even start (just a flick of a DOS screen and then nothing.


Cat_7 wrote:
Hi,
If you use spaces in a filename, you have to use " " around that filename for Qemu to understand it.
Please try to rename your Apple CD.iso to AppleCD.iso. Then change the command line and try again.
Best,
Cat_7


adespoton wrote:
You can also escape the spaces instead of quoting the name: ~/Emulation/Apple\ CD.iso or "~/Emulation/Apple CD.iso"


Under Windows, I have never had a single problem with any of the QEMU builds over the last 2 years with filenames containing spaces. My command looks like this and it works perfectly fine under Windows 7 64-bits: -drive "file=Mac OS 9.2.2 Universal Install (2002).iso,format=raw,media=cdrom" -drive "file=Mac OS 9.2.2 for QEMU (2GB).dsk,format=raw,media=disk"

@mrpatras Make sure that the ISO file you created is not a DMG, make sure it's a straight, uncompressed HFS+ or HFS ISO. Also make sure that every quote in your .bat file are all like this " and not two single quotes like this ' and not french quotes like this « (Mac OS X TextEdit does that by default under some languages). Obviously, make sure that your ISO file is not currently opened in another app when running your batch file, but the fact that the window briefly pops up and disappears usually means there's an invalid character in it, so check every character, you must have a mistake in the command. Use my batch file on MR to start with and simply change your ISO filename in place in my batch file so that way you know all the rest is correct.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:05 pm 
Offline
Expert User
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2004 8:59 am
Posts: 4524
Location: Sittard, The Netherlands
Hi,

Is there something wrong with the downloads?
I created a new build from the current official source and a new build from the sound-supporting screamer source code. Both on the 30th of October.

You have no problems with spaces in file names because you use " " around them. As I suggested to mrpatras who seems to be using Windows. Windows only allows using " ", while OSX can use the format as shown by adespoton.

Best,
Cat_7


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:18 pm 
Offline
Tinkerer
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 10, 2015 7:50 pm
Posts: 73
Cat_7 wrote:
Hi,
Is there something wrong with the downloads?
Best,
Cat_7


No, there's no nothing wrong with the downloads :P I just grabbed the screamer-enabled one (the bottom one) and it works fine, but it's confusing at first glance on the sticky post, because nothing shows the files are different (because it's the same date) but obviously, it's not the same file: one is screamer enabled and the other one is regular (no sound). Maybe put a small "screamer enabled" note after the date "30-10-2018" on the bottom one? Or maybe it's just me, don't mind me, I'm crazy I think O.o ... XD

BTW thanks for posting 3.1pre with the screamer! :D


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:21 am 
Offline
Space Cadet

Joined: Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:17 am
Posts: 1
Dear gurus,
I read for quite a while through this forum, always distracted by questions, already raised somewhere else.

However, I had hopes that the latest qemu version from december would enable the feature of sharing a folder on the host as per suggestion to edit the qemu.command by adding the sungem managed device:
Code:
-netdev user,id=network01 -device sungem,netdev=network01

So is there a chance to have this feature to be used in a 9.2.2 guest system, or did I miss something?

Thanks in advance!

Edit: Typo


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:00 pm 
Offline
Expert User
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2004 8:59 am
Posts: 4524
Location: Sittard, The Netherlands
Hi,

As far as I know, there is currently no way to share a folder over the network on a windows host with 9.22 as guest.

Best,
Cat_7


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:53 am 
Offline
Expert User
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2004 8:59 am
Posts: 4524
Location: Sittard, The Netherlands
Hi,

I've added a small guide to access shares on Windows 10 by using DAVE 6.2 in Mac OS 9.2.
See here: https://www.emaculation.com/doku.php/pp ... networking

I would be happy to receive feedback on whether this works for others...

Best,
Cat_7


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:32 pm 
Offline
Forum All-Star
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:11 am
Posts: 2474
Location: Emaculation.com
I'll have to try it again; I tried sharing using DAVE back when 9.2.2 was first runnable on qemu, and I wasn't able to access SMB shares (of course, these were OS X and Linux SMB shares, so there may have been a protocol conflict).


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:17 pm 
Offline
Student Driver

Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:34 am
Posts: 15
It would have been amazing if these builds had hardware acceleration support.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:09 am 
Offline
Space Cadet

Joined: Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:06 am
Posts: 1
Hi Cat_7,
Such a great effort! Thank you for this package.

Is there any Linux binary for qemu-system-ppc.exe? For instance, I'd love to emulate Mac OS 9 via Qemu under Linux. Is there any link that I could get the source files to compile or directly run a qemu-ppc Linux binary?

Thank you!


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:48 pm 
Offline
Expert User
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2004 8:59 am
Posts: 4524
Location: Sittard, The Netherlands
@ministar48:
You mean for graphics? Don't hold your breath ;-) There is work being done on improving fpu performance and support for more advanced vector algorithmic (you will only benefit if your CPU supports it).

@deksar:
Probably your linux distro has qemu available. If recent enough, you can run Mac OS.
We don't provide binaries as there are so many distros. If you want to give it a go yourself, the source code is here: https://github.com/qemu/QEMU

Best,
Cat_7


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 3:50 pm 
Offline
Student Driver

Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:34 am
Posts: 15
What do you mean by "more advanced vector algorithmic" ?


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:52 pm 
Offline
Expert User
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2004 8:59 am
Posts: 4524
Location: Sittard, The Netherlands
@ministar48:

More support for the PowerPC Altivec instruction set, speeding up some calculations by offloading them to the AVX2 extensions in modern Intel host cpu's.

Best,
Cat_7


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 4:42 pm 
Offline
Tinkerer
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 10, 2015 7:50 pm
Posts: 73
Cat_7 wrote:
Hi,
I created a new build from the current official source and a new build from the sound-supporting screamer source code. Both on the 30th of October.


Hi Cat_7 , is there any 2019 experimental release with sound support coming in soon? :)


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:21 pm 
Offline
Expert User
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2004 8:59 am
Posts: 4524
Location: Sittard, The Netherlands
@that-ben
Not that I'm aware of. I guess/hope there will be a newer build available when the fpu improvements have gone through, but that might not address the actual issues directly. I believe it is still not completely clear where the actual problem resides. I mean I can listen to internet radio in the slowest guest (Leopard) almost perfect with the current screamer build, so the network is fast enough, and the throughput seems fast enough. But not all audio behaves that well.

Qemu does have some issues with sound, also for other guest OS's, even when running the same architecture.
There is a set of audio patches in the works on the Qemu side, so perhaps we can benefit from it. For now, those patches corrupt sound from Mac OS/OSX guests. It should be fixed before the patches are allowed into the Qemu code.

Best,
Cat_7


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 10:44 pm 
Offline
Student Driver

Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:34 am
Posts: 15
That's good news! Too bad my CPU is a Celeron.... :sad:

FYI, by "hardware acceleration" i meant something like KVM or HAXM.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:32 pm 
Offline
Expert User
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2004 8:59 am
Posts: 4524
Location: Sittard, The Netherlands
KVM and HAXM are only supported when the host is the same architecture as the guest. No use for emulation. Some work is being done on the currently broken KVM support for G4 (and hopefully G5) host machines. Qemu with HAXM on windows seems to rely on some proprietary MS files, so is not available. But I saw some discussion about that. Outcome unsure.

G4 kernels do not all seem to have KVM support included (at least not the default debian kernel), so they need a kernel rebuild...takes ~12 hours on a 1.5 Ghz G4 mac mini.

Best,
Cat_7


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote Post a reply  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic  Reply to topic Page 6 of 7 [ 171 posts ]    Go to page Previous  1 ... 3, 4, 5, 6, 7  Next


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
 

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group