BasiliskII for Windows

About BasiliskII, a 68k Mac emulator for Windows, MacOSX, and Linux that can run System 7.x through MacOS 8.1.

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Re: BasiliskII for Windows

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Hi,

Someone would have to write a proposal and take on mentoring. Perhaps the best place to ask would be the developers list at github. https://github.com/cebix/macemu
btw: there is no source code for cdenable.sys, and compiling for 64 bit would require driver signing.

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Re: BasiliskII for Windows

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Another alternative would be to with permission from WinCDEmu's author(s), to integrate the source code. Alternatively create some kind of interface between the two. Cause WinCDEmu has 32bit and 64bit compatible drivers.

http://wincdemu.sysprogs.org/

Another alternative would be an interface between Daemon Tools Lite 4 or SlySoft Virtual CloneDrive and the emulator.
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Re: BasiliskII for Windows

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Will BasiliskII for Windows run on Windows 8.1?
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Re: BasiliskII for Windows

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MrGrymReaper wrote:Another alternative would be to with permission from WinCDEmu's author(s), to integrate the source code. Alternatively create some kind of interface between the two. Cause WinCDEmu has 32bit and 64bit compatible drivers.

http://wincdemu.sysprogs.org/

Another alternative would be an interface between Daemon Tools Lite 4 or SlySoft Virtual CloneDrive and the emulator.
The point of DT and VCD is to create a shim at the OS level -- as a result, they'll present disk images as virthal drives on the host, which can then be picked up by the guest the same way as physical media would be. There shouldn't be any further interface needed.

That, and I'm pretty sure neither of those projects is willing to adopt an open source license.
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Re: BasiliskII for Windows

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@ barrystein: Yes Basilisk runs in Windows 8.1, but not as a "modern" app ;-).

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Re: BasiliskII for Windows

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I have downloaded the newest build of Basilisk for Windows (2-20-2015) but when I run it nothing happens. I am trying to get it running so I can use our proprietary design program on my PC. It runs on the Linux platform but running it on the windows platform causes the design program to lock up. Anyway, do you have any suggestions on what I am doing wrong here? I am running Windows 7 Professional.
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Re: BasiliskII for Windows

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Hi, welcome.

I do not fully understand your question. You say Basilisk doesn't run, but you also say running your design program causes a lock up.
If Basilisk does run, you can check several settings in the GUI:
1. Check whether you have set "Ignore Illegal Memory Accesses" (on the Memory/Misc tab)
2. Disable the JIT compiler (on the JIT Compiler tab).

If basilisk doesn't run at all, please let us know which rom file you are using and which Mac OS you are emulating. Please also paste the contents of you BasiliskII_Prefs file in your answer.

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Re: BasiliskII for Windows

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Hi! Found Graphical problem in FullScreen (dga) 800x600 (16-32bit) modes. Please test on your SDL (Windows) builds of SheepShaver/Basilisk II. If it manifests - try to fix it.
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This problem never manifests on original Basilisk II builds (2001).
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Re: BasiliskII for Windows

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Hi,

Thanks for reporting. I can reproduce the error.
However, to draw attention of a developer it might be a better idea to create an issue at github:
https://github.com/cebix/macemu

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Re: BasiliskII for Windows

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Hi,

EDIT: OOPS, poster removed the post this was an answer to ;-)

Please edit these entries in you preferences file. Set:
jit false
jitfpu false
jitdebug false
jitlazyflush false
jitinline false
ignoresegv true

Then try again.

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Re: BasiliskII for Windows

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Sorry, I discovered that the problem was because of Google's Japanese IME. :)
When the language is set to Japanese, BasiliskII crashes.
(Discovered that with the help of this program: http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/what_is_hang.html)
I tried disabling these JIT options before and enabling ignoresegv, and it didn't fix the error.

Probably should've left the post, in case anyone else has the same problem.
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Chasing another issue, I came across this embeddable debugger, Dr mingw. Embedding it adds one library to link, one function call to make, and 3 additional dll files. But asone as you compile with -g it'll generate a debug log file with the stack trace, and source debugging. It's really great, and I think it could help pretty much everywhere and give better insight to random crashes.
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Re: BasiliskII for Windows

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Don't know if I should make a new topic but I ran into an issue installing basilisk on my laptop. I should mention I was using basilisk with no issue on my win 7 machine. So I got everything up and running but every program I try to run in basilisk tries to open in simpletext and I can't find any info on google.
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Yes, it would have been better to start a new thread. :)

Simple Text is the app used as default when the MacOS encounters an unknown file.
Usually the reason is that something went very wrong moving your files.
Best start moving again. This time create or download a large hardfile for BII, initialise it in MacOS and copy all your needed files to the transfer volume.
Some large volumes are collected here: http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/disk-images-emulators
This volume may be moved by USB or network to another computer without harm.
Note that some apps e.g. Stuffit have to be installed again as there are dependencies to files in the System folder.
Most apps like Photoshop, Claris Draw, even the System folder may be moved without issues.
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Thanks -- I found out the mistake I'd made, the "applications" I was trying to open were actually folders containing applications. Once I used HFVExplorer to open them and extract the apps the latter "worked." (Some worked, others seem to be unstable and crashing, but that's another issue.)
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Re: BasiliskII for Windows

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Cat_7 wrote:Always start with this download:
PLEASE NOTE THAT DUE TO SOME FALSE POSITIVES FROM E.G. NORTON ANTIVIRUS I CAN NO LONGER HOST THIS FILE ON MY EMPLOYERS WEBSITE
BasiliskII, the BasiliskII GUI and other files needed (HFV-Explorer, SDL.dll, drivers, documentation, etc) are included is this download: http://www.open.ou.nl/hsp/downloads/Bas ... 1_2010.zip
Hello.

Is there another place to download this package? I understand it's best to start with it, since it contains all needed components.
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Re: BasiliskII for Windows

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rjamorim wrote:
Cat_7 wrote:Always start with this download:
PLEASE NOTE THAT DUE TO SOME FALSE POSITIVES FROM E.G. NORTON ANTIVIRUS I CAN NO LONGER HOST THIS FILE ON MY EMPLOYERS WEBSITE
BasiliskII, the BasiliskII GUI and other files needed (HFV-Explorer, SDL.dll, drivers, documentation, etc) are included is this download: http://www.open.ou.nl/hsp/downloads/Bas ... 1_2010.zip
Hello.

Is there another place to download this package? I understand it's best to start with it, since it contains all needed components.
You really don't need the full package. The Macintosh Repository has the Old World and New World firmware (disguised as ROM files to make the compiled (and legal) memory dumps) of binary code in them usable with emulators). The first thing you will need is a Performa 630 ROM and setting Basilisk II 142 to use the Quadra 605/25

If you're a Windows user, Basilisk II 142 works best, especially for Windows 10 users. I would really recommend getting the Apple Legacy Recovery CD-ROM image from Macintosh Garden or Macintosh Repository.
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Re: BasiliskII for Windows

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WallyDog2149 wrote:You really don't need the full package. The Macintosh Repository has the Old World and New World firmware (disguised as ROM files to make the compiled (and legal) memory dumps) of binary code in them usable with emulators). The first thing you will need is a Performa 630 ROM and setting Basilisk II 142 to use the Quadra 605/25

If you're a Windows user, Basilisk II 142 work best, especially for Windows 10 users. I would really recommend getting the Apple Legacy Recovery CD-ROM image from Macintosh Garden or Macintosh Repository.
Got it! Thank you very much
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rjamorim wrote:
WallyDog2149 wrote:You really don't need the full package. The Macintosh Repository has the Old World and New World firmware (disguised as ROM files to make the compiled (and legal) memory dumps) of binary code in them usable with emulators). The first thing you will need is a Performa 630 ROM and setting Basilisk II 142 to use the Quadra 605/25

If you're a Windows user, Basilisk II 142 work best, especially for Windows 10 users. I would really recommend getting the Apple Legacy Recovery CD-ROM image from Macintosh Garden or Macintosh Repository.
Got it! Thank you very much
Any time. If you have any questions about how to mount ISO images natively in Basilisk II 142's GUI for Windows, refer to this thread:
http://www.emaculation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9447
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Re: BasiliskII for Windows

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Hello,

Your emulator works fine, thanks.

The sound for games éally except for Shanghai II.

Is there a solution ?

Cordially
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There were several versions of Shanghai II.
The really old one Shanghai II Dragons Eye I bought for my Mac II stopped playing sound somewhere with 7.5 methinks.
Luckily there is a slightly newer flavour which does work for me.
http://macintoshgarden.org/games/shanghai-2-dragons-eye
Maybe its the one you are looking for?
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Re: BasiliskII for Windows

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Download link from sticky post is down. Can't install it because I need the 2010 version which contains the whole package, the 2015 version is only a .exe that crashes when I run it, because it's missing SDL.DLL and whatnot. This is dead: http://www.open.ou.nl/hsp/downloads/Bas ... 1_2010.zip

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Re: BasiliskII for Windows

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The Internet Archive to the rescue! They backed up this download long ago, and it's still available (and likely will be for the foreseeable future).

You can download it here:

https://web.archive.org/web/20121217220 ... 1_2010.zip

I'm glad this is saved, it's a pretty important download.
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Re: BasiliskII for Windows

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LOL, a winner is you ThinkIndifferent. But @Cat_7: I'm still wondering why the 2015 version does not come with the rest of the package that came in the missing 2010 link. Why is the 2015 version only the .exe without the required DLL ?

Alright, so now I've got the 2010 package and swapped the .exe for the 2015 one and I'm super thankful for the most annoying thing that was fixed: The multi-depth setting in MONITORS can now allow me to switch between B&W and 256 colors without exiting and tweaking the prefs file, so this is NICE... BUT a couple things are now not working right:

[NOT YET FIXED] 1) It's way too fast. Before in the 2008 version, I had a skip frames settings and I had put it to 11 and it was working like a proper 25mhz 68040 :) How can I achieve something like this with the 2015 version? I tried swapping for my preferences file from the 2008 version, but of course the program crashes upon launch and does not work at all. EDIT: I thought it was fixed at first, but it's really not. It was just glitching and I thought it was slower, but it was not. The problem is that the 2015 version is not recognizing that pref setting anymore: framesleepticks

[FIXED!] 2) I'm getting the infamous black screen when going in fullscreen at 8-bit depth (256 colors) but everything is fine under 16-bit depth (thousands of colors). The problem is 99% of games back then were 8-bit and would not even want to run with a higher color bit depth mode, so any suggestions on how to achieve fullscreen on 256 colors mode?

EDIT: OK I got the most important problem fixed now, will post a READY TO GO package on MR so that future people coming here can easily grab the 2015 version ready to go, no config to do. Thanks.

Here's the 2015 package all put together, ready to go, System 7.5.3 English already installed, ROM and HDD files in relative paths, nothing to configure, just run the BII .exe: https://www.macintoshrepository.org/764 ... py-support
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Cat_7 explained on the download page why the 2010 download (with the needed additional files) was removed:
PLEASE NOTE THAT DUE TO SOME FALSE POSITIVES FROM E.G. NORTON ANTIVIRUS I CAN NO LONGER HOST THIS FILE ON MY EMPLOYERS WEBSITE
In fact, Norton threatened to block the whole domain for all its users if the download was not removed. The administrators of the university site tried to work with Norton and convince them that that there was nothing wrong with the file, to no avail.
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