New Basilisk II/JIT for Windows - March 22nd 2005

[niuus]

Ok, so we got a new Basilisk II/JIT + SDL (22.Mar.2005) version. anyone tried it yet? i can't get any graphics out of this build (runs the window and stays black). I used previous Basilisk II/JIT snapshot (2004-11-09) with SDL and it worked, showing graphics normally.

I'm using the latest SDL from the libsdl.org page.

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basiliskII --disk macos7.hfv --udptunnel true --udpport 6066 --bootdrive 0 --bootdriver 0 --rom quadra605.rom --ramsize 25165824 --frameskip 0 --modelid 88 --cpu 4 --fpu true --jit true --jitfpu true --jitdebug false --jitcachesize 8192 --jitlazyflush true --keyboardtype 5 --keycodes false --mousewheelmode 1 --mousewheellines 3

Those are the commands i'm using. Exactly the same as in the previous snapshot. Suggestions?

EDIT: BTW, if you're having a Caught SIGSEGV at address 00000009 [IP=004040E2], try setting the right letter for your CD-ROM, i mistaked it and Basilisk wouldn't start. If you don't use CD-ROM you can safely delete the "cdrom" entry.


Edited to make thread an Announcement. Mac Emu

[Mac Emu]

Downloads
Basilisk II: http://gwenole.beauchesne.online.fr/bas ... .win32.zip
SDL.dll: http://www.libsdl.org/release/SDL-1.2.8-win32.zip

Cool! On Apple Personnal Diagnostics benchmarks, the new build is 200%+ faster then the older build by Gwenole we've been using for years. But the SDL limitations are evident, with inferior user interface speed when it comes to mouse movement\clicking and opening windows, etc.

If you adjust the following "BasiliskII_prefs" file and put it in the same directory as the BasiliskII.exe, External File System (EXTFS) access works AND networking (via the NAT Router).

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disk OS81.HFV
disk C:\Sheep\100.HFV
disk D:\700.HFV
cdrom E:\
extfs 
scsi0 "PLEXTOR" "CD-R   PX-W4012A"
scsi1 <Free SCSI slot 1>
scsi2 <Free SCSI slot 2>
scsi3 <Free SCSI slot 3>
scsi4 <Free SCSI slot 4>
scsi5 <Free SCSI slot 5>
scsi6 <Free SCSI slot 6>
screen win/800/600/8
seriala FILE
serialb FILE
rom D:\Apps\Emu\macemu\F1A6F343.ROM
bootdrive 0
bootdriver 0
ramsize 67108864
frameskip 0
modelid 14
nocdrom true
nosound false
nogui false
pollmedia false
frameskip 0
etherpermanentaddress true
ethermulticastmode 0
realmodecd false
enableextfs true
extdrives #CD
debugextfs 0
routerenabled true
ftp_port_list 21
jit true
jitlazyflush true
jitcachesize 8192
jitfpu true
cpu 4
fpu true

[niuus]

Now using the "BasiliskII_prefs" file.

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disk macos8.HFV
cdrom H:\
extfs
screen win/800/600/8
seriala FILE
serialb FILE
rom quadra900.rom
bootdrive 0
bootdriver 0
ramsize 33554432
frameskip 0
modelid 14
cpu 4
fpu true
nocdrom true
nosound false
nogui false
noclipconvert false
nofloppyboot true
noscsi true
keyboardfile BasiliskII_keyboard
pollmedia false
frameskip 0
etherpermanentaddress true
ethermulticastmode 0
realmodecd false
enableextfs false
extdrives #H
debugextfs 0
routerenabled true
ftp_port_list 21
keyboardtype 5
jit true
jitlazyflush true
jitcachesize 8192
jitfpu true

Basilisk opens, but still, no graphics. :|

[emodel]

mmm ok guys, but whats the point ?
I mean, now, mac os takes forever to load (at least 4/5 times slower as my old BII version from 2000), and its unusable here (mouse cursor is sloooowww).
And anyway, are there any emualtion improvements over this old version ?

[Mac Emu]

While the SDL implementation makes this version's GUI (video, mouse, sound, CD-ROM) slower, it's about twice as fast when executing a non-GUI task that takes a long time (like extracting large Stuffit files, applying Photoshop 4 filters, etc.).

This build also can change monitor color and depth resolutions "on-the-fly" without rebooting. Though I concur that this is mainly useful for playing 68k games, which mostly run slower on this build due to the SDL library being used instead of native API or DirectX.

The neat thing is, this is the first new build of Basilisk II for Windows in a long while and is hopefully an indication that even better builds will be made available in the future.

It's strange that SheepShaver, which also uses sdl.dll, isn't suffering from the slowdown this Basilisk II build has. And too bad the native routing that exists in the Windows port of Basilisk II can't be easily transfered into SheepShaver.

[emodel]

This build also can change monitor color and depth resolutions "on-the-fly" without rebooting.

Thats a nice feature, indeed.

Ok thanks for the infos.

[Mac Emu]

Basilisk opens, but still, no graphics. :|

Can you make a screenshot of what your Basilisk II screen looks like and somehow make it available via a link?

[niuus]

Basilisk opens, but still, no graphics. :|

Can you make a screenshot of what your Basilisk II screen looks like and somehow make it available via a link?

Sure, there you go:

[boyanml]

Try delete BasiliskII_xpram.dat and start again.

[rmarquis]

If it makes you feel better, niuus, I get the same thing.

-Windows XP Pro
-tried running with XP in 16 and 32 bit colors
-made my config file match those posted above with respect to the display and screen sections
-tried a few different roms
-tried every different graphics setting I could find

My next move is to try to get B2 built myself in debug mode so I can see if SDL is throwing some kind of error return code or exception that might give me a clue. I think someone gave instructions on how to rig a build setup and build using cygwin, so we'll see how that goes.

I don't know how to use GDB though, so this oughta be fun

This approach has about a 5% chance of success, so if anyone has any ideas, or wants me to post more info about my config, just say so.

[rmarquis]

If it makes you feel better, niuus, I get the same thing.

-Windows XP Pro
-tried running with XP in 16 and 32 bit colors
-made my config file match those posted above with respect to the display and screen sections
-tried a few different roms
-tried every different graphics setting I could find
<snip>

I should mention also that I've blown away the PRAM file repeatedly as well.

[CFran2]

me too, black graphics, weird. gacve the same result when it ried compiling by myself.

but i have a bigger problem, when i start Basilisk II (any build, already tried 4 different builds) im stuck to the gray screen.... help????? i tried anything but cant fix that

[boyanml]

What's in "stdout.txt"?

[rmarquis]

There isn't anything in my stdout.txt or stderr.txt.

Now, I have found that the debug build I made was crashing with a SIGSEV in file video_vosf.h at line 209:
addr[0] = 0; // Trigger Screen_fault_handler()

That detail alone isn't much help. I commented out the implementation of the method 'video_vosf_profitable' and just returned false (hoping there was some fallback display code--I didn't look), but the emulator just enters its main loop (starting emulation...) and then sits there.

still with a black screen.

Is there somewhere I can post this or perhaps work with Gwenole (spelling?) on moving the ball forward?

I did the same build on my work PC and it works great. I'm going to do a debug build on the working machine and see how it behaves around those lines of code. Presuming 'video_vosf' is profitable (I don't know what a video vosf is) on that machine, or it doesn't die on that method, that would be the difference.

On the machine that doesn't work:
Windows XP SP2
NVidia Geforce 3 of some sort
recent drivers as of a month or so ago

On the one that does work:
Windows 2000
ATI Mobility Radeon 9600; presumably recent drivers (don't have control over them)

I can post more comprehensive machine specs if anyone wants 'em

[Banquo]

It is nice to see a new build of Basilisk II, but I cannot get full screen to work for some reason. Is this not possible with the SDL version? I have it set to DirectX Fullscreen but it seems to be ignoring that. I don't want to run it in a window, so if there is no way to go full screen I guess I'll have to go back to the previous version.

I also tried the new version of sheepshaver, but I can't get it to accept either of the two ROM images from Apple's site. I used Basilisk II to mount the image, tome viewer to extract the ROM and HFV Explorer to copy it to my Windows drive. Sheepshaver tells me the rom size is invalid for both of them though.

[Cat_7]

Take care how you copy the rom file from BasiliskII to windows with HFV explorer. The easiest way to copy the file is using your "my computer" option in BasiliskII.

The rom file from the mac os rom update should work fine. It's size should be exactly 1.901 Kb or 1.945.746 bytes.

Cat_7

[trexplorer]

mmm ok guys, but whats the point ?
I mean, now, mac os takes forever to load (at least 4/5 times slower as my old BII version from 2000), and its unusable here (mouse cursor is sloooowww).
And anyway, are there any emualtion improvements over this old version ?

I agree ... Until graphics and more importantly mouse sampling/response becomes normal, it is a nice experiment but not very useful ... On the good side, some of graphics renderring glitches present in previous versions seem to have been fixed.

Cheers ...

[The Balance Of Judgement]

I get a Black Screen in Linux, and that is something to do with the floppy drive. (Known Bug) After 2 minutes the emulators starts up fine. How long did you let it sit to see maybe if it would eventually work?

Maybe a little time is needed.

[rmarquis]

I get a Black Screen in Linux, and that is something to do with the floppy drive. (Known Bug) After 2 minutes the emulators starts up fine. How long did you let it sit to see maybe if it would eventually work?

Maybe a little time is needed.

I let it go about twenty minutes; during which I believe the process's memory use was continuously increasing. Usually I just kill it using Windows task manager.

I haven't tried running under linux, but that's just because my dist was hosed in a hard drive crash, and my wife demands her Windows.

Anyway; I could stick a breakpoint around the floppy drive code and see if that's the problem... but I have a feeling that's not it.

Anyone have any other ideas? I'll have a look into the floppy drive thing. Are there any other symptoms of that I could look at?

thanks for the response!

[gb]

I let it go about twenty minutes; during which I believe the process's memory use was continuously increasing.

Increasing memory may be due to some memory leak in the win32 cdrom code. I am not sure, did you also have ethernet?

[rmarquis]

I let it go about twenty minutes; during which I believe the process's memory use was continuously increasing.

Increasing memory may be due to some memory leak in the win32 cdrom code. I am not sure, did you also have ethernet?

I can't remember if I had ethernet enabled or not. In this current version, which prefs setting or switch turns that on or off so I can double-check?

I can disable the CDROM option and see if the memory continues to climb.

I'm more than happy to try any patches and chuck the thing at insight/gdb to see what the behaviors are for a given situation...

Also, for the video_vosf_profitable() call, it looks like the intent is for a failing test to cause the SIGSEV, which is supposed to be handled by a handler installed somewhere prior in the code (I don't have it in front of me) but that doesn't appear to be working. I'm not too familiar with how that's supposed to work, though, so it might be doing what it's supposed to be, but confusing my debugger (or the operator--me).

thanks!

and thanks for gettin' this going again!
-Ryan

[rmarquis]

I let it go about twenty minutes; during which I believe the process's memory use was continuously increasing.

Increasing memory may be due to some memory leak in the win32 cdrom code. I am not sure, did you also have ethernet?

I can't remember if I had ethernet enabled or not. In this current version, which prefs setting or switch turns that on or off so I can double-check?

I can disable the CDROM option and see if the memory continues to climb.

I'm more than happy to try any patches and chuck the thing at insight/gdb to see what the behaviors are for a given situation...

Okay, turns out I'm smokin' something. The default prefs that get created when B2 is created do not cause any memory to be leaked. At all. Something setting in the big mess of extra stuff that gets added by the GUI is turning something on that's leaking, and I haven't gone through every option to try to find it.
So I didn't want anyone spinning their wheels on that one on my account.

[Silver9990]

Edit

I removed all of the pref settings in the list and started BII, now I get a 320k stdout.txt file and a 40k stderr.txt file containing alot of "Caught SIGSEGV at address".

I get the same thing (black screen), but my stdout.txt reports this:

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Basilisk II V1.0 by Christian Bauer et al.
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'noclipconvert'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'nofloppyboot'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'noscsi'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'ntdx5hack'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'rightmouse'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'keyboardfile'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'priority_ether_run'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'priority_ether_idle'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'priority_serial_in_run'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'priority_serial_in_idle'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'priority_serial_out_run'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'priority_serial_out_idle'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'priority_cpu_run'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'priority_cpu_idle'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'priority_60hz_run'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'priority_60hz_idle'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'priority_1hz_run'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'priority_1hz_idle'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'priority_pram_run'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'priority_pram_idle'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'priority_gui_run'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'priority_gui_idle'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'priority_gdi_run'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'priority_gdi_idle'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'priority_dx_run'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'priority_dx_idle'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'priority_fb_run'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'priority_fb_idle'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'priority_sound_run'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'priority_sound_idle'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'noaudio'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'debugscsi'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'debugfilesys'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'debugserial'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'framesleepticks'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'showfps'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'stickymenu'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'disable98optimizations'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'realmodecd'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'soundbuffers'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'soundbuffersize8000'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'soundbuffersize11025'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'soundbuffersize22050'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'soundbuffersize44100'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'nosoundwheninactive'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'mousewheelreversex'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'mousewheelreversey'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'mousewheelclickmode'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'mousewheelcust00'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'mousewheelcust01'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'mousewheelcust10'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'mousewheelcust11'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'usealtescape'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'usealttab'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'usecontrolescape'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'usealtspace'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'usealtenter'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'disableaccuratetimer'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'guiautorestart'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'gethardwarevolume'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'usentfsafp'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'typemapfile'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'portfile0'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'portfile1'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'DX_fullscreen_refreshrate'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'mousemovementmode'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'usestartupsound'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'smp_ethernet'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'smp_serialin'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'smp_serialout'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'smp_cpu'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'smp_60hz'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'smp_1hz'
WARNING: Unknown preferences keyword 'smp_pr