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Catalina update

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Hi ... I read that Catalina has issues with specific Mac OS computers ? I have an iMac 27" (late 2013). Is there an update on Catalina's compatibility with SheepSaver ? Is it safe to update to Catalina or should I wait for a later build ?
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I tried 15.0.32 from AppStore with a MBP 8,1 HackBook and did not encounter issues.
Its a known fact that 32bit apps won´t work anymore, including Basilisk GUI and the standalone SheepShaver GUI.
For me Catalina feels as usable as Mojave, though there will be no "must have" new features for "dated" hardware. ;)
On my side AppStore is offering version 15.0.33 now, I may give it another go the next days.

If you have to edit the hidden Basilik II / SheepShaver prefs files manually, I found this helpful:
https://nektony.com/products/funter
If you don´t like Terminal, that is.
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Re: Catalina update

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Thanks. How would I know if my iMac 27" (late 2013) is clear for Catalina ?
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According to info from Apple, your iMac is compatible with Catalina: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210222

I usually wait at least 6 months after a new macOS version is made available. I see no compelling reason to upgrade from Mojave to Catalina sooner.

The latest SheepShaver and BasiliskII builds I posted here will run in Catalina (both 64-bit and notarized).

BasiliskIIGUi is 32-bit and will not run in Catalina. Our member munkymajic is working on a new BasiliskIIGUi. I expect a first public beta to be available soon.
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Thanks Ronald ... Six (6) months ? Wow that is long before enjoying a new software update. I'll try to be that patient.
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Well, it depends on how anxious you are to be able to use some new features. Running a new macOS is not always a joy. Early versions are often plagued by bugs. Catalina is no exception.
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While I cannot agree more, I have never been doing that. I am resisting with Catalina, for I don't know the reason. Time will tell if Catalina is an exception, for me at least.
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Installing 10.15 onto an external FW or USB3 drive may be an option for the curious but late adopters.
Still have a working Sierra instance on a 128GB SSD. ;)
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For me, as long as VirtualBox supports the previous OS version, I'm happy :) Any software that won't run on Catalina just goes into the VM. Of course, starting with Mojave, VirtualBox becomes trickier to install, due to VB not having native APFS support.

I held off on Catalina until I started needing to do some serious testing of compile systems; running XCode in a VM is a real pain when doing things in volume.
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Good morning ... I just realized that my SheepShaverPrefs app was not 64 bit. Is that app still useful with Catalina ?
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The stand-alone SheepShaverPrefs app will not run in Catalina.
The latest SheepShaver build I posted does run in Catalina and so does the built-in prefs editor.

Your SheepShaverPrefs app is not used much anymore. Some seem to use it still, but I myself have not used it in years. It is not needed at setup (a rom file named "Mac OS ROM" will be recognized) and since the availability of the full-screen mode toggle it is also not needed anymore to access the prefs editor when SheepShaver is launched in full-screen mode.

It could be useful, though, in rare situations where the built-in prefs editor cannot be used because SheepShaver crashes before it is available.

The code for a 64-bit prefs editor must be available in the current SheepShaver source code. I do not know if it can be compiled as a separate application.
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Re: Catalina update

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Thanks a lot Ronald for your precious comments.
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24bit wrote:If you have to edit the hidden Basilik II / SheepShaver prefs files manually, I found this helpful:
https://nektony.com/products/funter
If you don´t like Terminal, that is.
From what I see on that website it's a tool to show/hide invisible files? You can do that in Finder by pressing cmd+shift+. (dot)
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Thanks.
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Re: Catalina update

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Hi.
Since I made the Catalina update last weekend, with Sheepshaver installed in V2.5, Sheepshave is not working anymore on my iMac.
When I launch the application, I got a black screen with the rainbow wheel turning endlessly. I presume I may need to set some security preferences to make it working but I have no clue of what to do to fix that. I didn't find the answer on the forum either. Does anybody know what to do ?
Thank you.
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SheepShaver is probably set to launch in full-screen mode. The issue is discussed in this topic: https://www.emaculation.com/forum/viewt ... 20&t=10392

SheepShaver will start normally in window mode and after that the control-return full-screen toggle will work as expected. To set SheepShaver to be launched in window mode, you will need to edit the prefs file manually in TextEdit as described here: https://www.emaculation.com/forum/viewt ... =25#p64506

You can also try the workaround described here: https://www.emaculation.com/forum/viewt ... =25#p64469:
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Re: Catalina update

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Thank you. I followed your procedure to go to the window display mode and it is now working.
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Re: Catalina update

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Thanks again Ronald. Your help is invaluable.
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