Please help? Internet not working on fresh OS X installs!

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Please help? Internet not working on fresh OS X installs!

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Hello!

I saw this problem was reported again but didn't know what else to do as there was no solution.
I'm using the latest build Qemu-Win64-7.2-14-12-2022 under Windows 11 Version 22H2.
I have the same problem with 10.4.x and 10.5.x fresh installs where I cannot connect to the internet at all. For example I type www.google.com in Safari and it just stays there forever.
My .bat looks like this:

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qemu-system-ppc.exe ^
-L pc-bios ^
-M mac99,via=pmu ^
-m 1024 ^
-display sdl ^
-boot c ^
-drive file=osx_tiger.img,format=raw,media=disk ^
-g 1280x768x32
It seems I'm having the same issue with all OS X versions, not only Tiger & Leopard.
Thank you for your time, any help will be appreciated!
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Re: Please help? Internet not working on fresh OS X installs!

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Please follow the setup in the Wiki, or use the example script -- in the provided code, you haven't defined a network card.

This can be added with

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 -netdev user,id=mynet0 -device sungem,netdev=mynet0
First option defines a virtual network device, the second populates it with an emulated sungem NIC.
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Re: Please help? Internet not working on fresh OS X installs!

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Hi,

The parameters mentioned by adespoton are correct, but also used by default.
There is indeed a problem with connection speeds in OS X guests. I know of no solution.

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Thank you both for your replies.

I knew that the parameters mentioned are enabled by default that's why I haven't added them in my script.
So, it seems there is no solution then. This makes things very difficult, especially updating the OS and adding some basic apps...
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Re: Please help? Internet not working on fresh OS X installs!

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I've been giving this a closer look, and I have no problems visiting certain sites with Safari in Tiger or Leopard. Apple.com is extremely slow to load, but e.g. the macintosh garden site runs as can be expected. I got download speeds up to 7Mb. I emptied the cache and reset Safari before browsing.

Of course we are using an old browser that is no longer fully compatible with the modern internet....
Can you give an example of a site not/slowly loading?

What are your network settings in Tiger/Leopard? Can you ping networks like google dns: 8.8.8.8

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The only issues I've personally had are with https redirects, since those old browsers a) don't have TLS1.2 support and b) the root certificates need to be updated in the keychain first.

I just did the second on El Capitan, which started throwing errors recently and refusing to load pages:

https://apple.stackexchange.com/questio ... -g-el-capi

But this should work as far back as OS X 10.4. Unfortunately, the TLS vs SSL issue requires a different browser, eg TenFourFox.
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OK so I did some testing with Tiger & Leopard, got the same results in both.
I can ping sites from the terminal normally but Safari still won't load anything at all. Simple sites like www.google.com don't load at all, this is very strange indeed. :???:
Network preferences show the IP's assigned automatically.
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How about a really "simple" site like this one: www.spidernet.nl
(Dutch page, created by me decades ago.)
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Typing this from InterWebPPC in 10.5.8!
Looks like I wasn't trying with the proper sites... Your site worked Ronald and then I tried other "non-https" sites too.
I managed to reach macintosh garden and downloaded a better browser to use.
This is fun!
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